Posted on 10/07/2019 5:52:34 PM PDT by Crazieman
Pacific Gas and Electric Co. said Monday that it might preemptively cut power this week to much of Northern California — including almost all of the Bay Area — to prevent power lines from sparking wildfires during dry and windy weather.
The shut-off watch, covering 29 of the state’s 58 counties, is unprecedented in scope and could grow as forecasts come into focus. Customers in parts of the counties could lose power as soon as Wednesday morning, and the watch extends through Thursday.
Seven of the nine Bay Area counties — all but San Francisco and Marin — were advised of the potential outage, along with the North Coast, the northern parts of the Central Valley and the northern and central Sierra and foothills. The company cited a “potentially widespread, strong and dry wind event.”
A shut-off watch precedes a warning of an actual planned outage.
(Excerpt) Read more at sfchronicle.com ...
This is why we set up a radio system because waiting for information to get filtered down and to radio stations takes forever. We on the ground know immediately which roads are open and closed because we can relay that information immediately.
My instructions to my wife are to load up and in case of evac orders to head south to my location. I am actually here in Fresno of all places...
I was born and raised here.
I’ll stay and fight.
Knowing that this is God’s natural paradise.
Ya know, these folks have never seen gold country in February. They are ignorant of that reality.
You know...just to remove the trees damaged by the fire in Paradise is something like one million trees. To go around trimming trees in the mountainous terrain would take decades in just one county alone. We don’t have trees....we have forests...and mountains and ravines and even places where no human has been...say for Ishi
Yep, it was....I should have put the “properly maintained” in front of power lines and cleared right of ways....I admit that it was definitely my bad. And yes, big storms “mess with power lines” for sure, even more so with improperly maintained ones.
So why were the power lines not “properly maintained” with cleared right of ways?
Who stopped that and why?
More of 'fire prevention theatre' - with inverse condemnation meaning the power company is on the hook for any fire that could possibly be related to utility service, their lawyers want them to shut off the power during wind events to limit liability.
But the root problem is 30 some years of utter neglect of property and wildlands, people not clearing property of brush and grass, letting trees grow wild, not trimming those trees and otherwise making defensible spaces.
Add on diminishing county budgets where they're not clearing roadside brush, grass and trees, add on the virtual banning of firebreaks around towns, add on eliminating fire roads and timber trails, etc, etc, etc...
Millions are potentially going to be left in the dark for up to a week to protect the power company from a law that never should have been written in the first place (still don't get why PG&E isn't fighting that tooth and nail..) for liability that they have no control over (overgrown properties, cities reducing lanes on evacuation routes, failure to clear evacuation routes, legislating bans on cutting trees greater than the thickness of a thumb, etc, etc.)
ROFL
Well, solar power with batteries will love this. Natural gas generators may work for now...until they are banned...if not banned already.
“In fact, 98% of California is both cleaner and more beautiful than where you live, wherever that may be.”
Get real. Just LA, alone, means that ain’t close to 98%.
Effect Freerepulic???
.
Seems the consensus
Is we deserve to fry
or a least a slow
ROAST!
Thanks to the
Poo Slingers’
Of course, all those people in Northern California who want to save all the food in their fridges will be running gas-powered generators, which will spark wildfires......
it was like that in the “Sahara Forest” too... before I started cutting wood there for a living...../s
Yes it is, and it’s all BS. All they have to do is put a small triangle of sheet metal on the lines between the supports and the small but equal wind drag keeps them from swinging around and slapping together. This is what they do elsewhere and it cures the problem completely.
“in light of the fact their power equipment burned a town to the ground.”
You told a half truth. You failed to also state that Kali didn’t spend the federal forest budget on proper forest management, so there was fuel that was available to burn that town to the ground.
Blaming the power company is stupid since a lightening strike could have just as easily did it, or, better, yet, just like Kali’s beloved illegal aliens who have done it.
CA has made most home generators more or less illegal due to pollution laws and permitting.
The lines run through some hellacious terrain. At the exact point of failure it was actually witnessed early on the morning of November 8th...fire crews were called, but it breeched the top of the Feather River Canyon rapidly and first hit the small community of Concow before wiping out Paradise and lower Magalia
This shit costs some serious money. PG and E is probably at fault for not maintaining the lines...The state wanted them to start getting their power from unicorn farts...all fine and dandy until you find out there are no unicorns...
“We have no water as the wells won’t run off a small generator.”
What generator? It’s Kali! No gennies allowed. That’s fossil fuel. Use a solar panel or a windmill.
You can't keep a couple of containers around to refill the toilet tank? I have at least 1000 gallons in containers in the house.
Another ignorant poster. yes generators are allowed in California. I do have a hand pump on the well. At least I have a well...others use ditch water in our area.
Sounds like you have a rather large house. Yes we have water jugs to throw in some water...If I were to use the hand pump to fill the accumulator that would give me about two toilet flushes before the pressure goes back down...Okay for short term, but not long term outage...If I was home, no issue as we have the RV, but I am currently in it, writing this while here in Fresno working, of which I need to get back to doing...Ciao..
Can't let that slide either. What burned a lot of Butte county last year was your idiotic regulations that only allowed 6,000 acres of preventive fire (manmade or natural) at any one time. Keep in mind the county is over a million acres and the safe burn season is just a month or two.
Instead you let the forests build up and burn out of control. If the power lines didn't kick it off, then something else would have. Keep in mind that before you (white man) came along, there were over 4 million acres burned on average every year in California, Now the state does 20,000 preventive in a good year. The feds do about 250k but they are bound to the exact same rules as everyone else. Their hands are tied.
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