Posted on 10/07/2019 3:11:23 AM PDT by a little elbow grease
“We can burn up the phone lines to our Congresscritters to hold a vote or shut this farce down.”
Yes, this is the most important 1st thing we the people can do! If you can’t get through to the D.C. office, call all the rep’s state offices. Then get 10 people together and go to an office, D.C. or state and visit the rep and write out a statement of what you demand of them to do about this impeachment farce. A Breitbart radio show host activist said this is the most effective thing to do because it gets the attention of the representative. A march on Washington is good, but the representative will be at home watching the march on the TV, not engaging or the office staffer engaging. There is a march on Washington October 17 where people will visit Congressional offices. Join in!
so how does impeachment proceed in precedent
I think I heard on the radio over night that the FISA crap will finally be exposed on Friday. (We’ll see.)
I suspect the sudden rhetorical backbone in the GOPe is because it the IG report is nothing burger. The GOP know that we are going to be unhappy and are tossing us some red meat.
It was always to be. Horowitz has a long history of whitewashing obama admin crimes and anyone interested could research that.
What is mandatory is that the House invoke its power sitting in impeachment. It has not done this.
Deschler's Precedents of the U.S. House of Representatives : Chapters 10 - 14
Chapter 14 is on Impeachment. Starts on p.381 of this excerpt, marked as page 1939.
Proceedings in the Senate are touched on in this reference, but not thoroughly covered. Generally speaking, the Senate sets its own rules for conducting impeachment rials, and it need not follow any particular pattern. It is not a court. The "only" remedy in its hands is removal from office and bar from office. It cannot jail or find a crime, etc.
The Dems are following a scenario out of the Carville, Begala and Stephanopoulos playbook.
It was always to be. Horowitz has a long history of whitewashing obama admin crimes and anyone interested could research that.
_____________________
I notice that you tend to be a bummer. Feel free not to post to me, okay?
You nailed it. These people are dishonet despicable and dangerous. The politicians and the press will work together to manufacture issues and continue to gaslight the public. It will never end. Literally never, or at least not until the world ends.
_____________________
LOL ......... yes that's generally the day that all sorts of stories are dumped.
Enjoy yourself.
___________________
Are you serious? How would that serve DJT? I'm confused.
_______________________
YES
“Republican’ leaders are (have been) asleep on their feet. It’s why I pitch every single piece of mail they send me... unopened!
If I see their return address on it, it’s trash!!
Yep. Pure scum.
I agree. Regarding Ratcliffe’s statements, it’s actually much simpler than he describes. This “inquiry” is being run by Schiff and the HPSCI because the HPSCI can hold closed hearings and hide testimony and evidence under national security classification guidelines, whether the information being discussed is classified or not and thus can be withheld from the public, as in the case of the Volker hearing. Schiff and the Dems on the committee can prevent Republicans from even questioning witnesses, which they have done, and Schiff, as he has done in the past, can leak select, potentially questionable statements and evidence to tools in the media, which is precisely what he has done with the Volker testimony. The fact that Schiff, like Pelosi, is compromised by his own connections to Ukraine (they have one another by the “short hairs”) is only icing on the cake.
The courts cannot get involved until after a violation of the limitations has actually happened, such as when the citation of contempt is actually issued for not appearing on a subpoena, then they can step in and rule it as an invalid citation if it is.
Any committee can hold closed hearings. All the irregularities, and they are numeorus, could take many different forms. HPSIC is not inherently "closed," and national security is not the only valid justification for closing a hearing.
Don't mistake all that for saying what is going on has any validity and a matter of proper function of the House. It has none. The House is not following its own rules, and it is not abiding by fundamental principles of parliamentary practice.
The DEMs and the press are engaging in legal-sounding gibberish, and not many people detect it as the total nonsense that it is. "Nothing in the constitution says we have to have a vote to conduct an imeachment investigation." True, but nonsense.
Did you ever try to carry on a conversation with a person who was deliberately obtuse? That's what is going on. The people who are supposed to set and follow their own rules have set their rules, and then violated them - while chanting "Rule of law, nobody is above the law, crisis, crisis, crisis."
Nadler is due in Court tomorrow to argue that the House is conducting a legitimate impeachment inquiry. That case was filed by Nadler at the end of July. Hear much about it?
Great assessment of the situation...
I like John Ratcliffe. He’s one of the good guys.
“At some point, a federal judge is going to drag them in and just say....either you vote on impeachment and do official subpoenas.....or you halt this fake subpoena game right away.”
“I’m not so sure. He or she seem just as likely to say it’s a political question and a separation of powers issue and demur.”
And from what I understand it is separation of powers, Until an invalid subpoena and citation of contempt is appealed in the courts. Only then can the courts become involved after the fact.
I think this may be why the dems have not yet forced the issue on some who refused to appear in the past, they have just excused it and let it go. They don’t want it to be on the record as appealed and ruled as illegal and invalid.
Why a no news friday?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.