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Fresh trouble for Democrats’ Trump-Ukraine case
NYPOST.COM ^ | Oct 2, 2019 | Post Editorial Board

Posted on 10/03/2019 2:27:35 AM PDT by Liz

News that Washington didn’t tell Ukraine it was delaying aid until a month after Trump’s phone call punches a gaping hole in Democrats’ impeachment case. BuzzFeed reported Wednesday that Ukraine's Zelensky believed $391M in military funding was already headed to Kiev when he chatted with Trump in August.

Dems charge the prez held up the money to pressure Zelensky to probe Joe Biden and his son. Hard to see how that works when Zelensky didn’t know about the holdup.

This follows that several of the whistleblower’s other claims about that call aren’t borne out by the transcript. Speaker Pelosi and Intel Committee Schiff continue to claim Trump “undermined national security” and was grounds for impeachment. “Look at the sequencing,” urged Pelosi. “A few days before” the call, Trump “withdrew” the aid. Why? He “decided he was going to use [it] as leverage.”

Uh, so why didn’t he?

There was no mention of the aid during (or before) the call, and Zelensky says he felt no pressure. Nor is there any evidence he acted on any fear. And the funds got released last month without Zelensky giving Trump what Democrats say he supposedly wanted.

The case grew fishier after NYT reported the (eventual) whistleblower first consulted with a Schiff aide, who suggested he file a complaint — and also briefed Schiff on the broad allegations.

....this is starting to look as meatless as the “Russian collusion” tale. Which may be why Schiff is warning that any resistance to Congress’ demands for testimony or documents counts as “evidence” of obstruction of justice, and another impeachment charge.

Team Trump has every right to resist ..... pushback is not obstruction. And trying to use it for impeachment only suggests, as in Russia-gate, it’s the best you’ve got.

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To: cgbg

Nice input....thanks.


21 posted on 10/03/2019 3:17:53 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Ann Archy

They lie, cheat, steal and when we get pissed off the accuse us of being barbarians for threatening violence. We cannot continue to pretend we can share a country with these people.


22 posted on 10/03/2019 3:19:15 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Liz

The stupid Ds are like a bad husband who hates his wife with such passion that he thinks he can get away with murdering her.


23 posted on 10/03/2019 3:20:58 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Liz

Bookmark!!


24 posted on 10/03/2019 3:21:24 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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Trump gives Goodwin an interview with the NY Post...Trump says “IT MIGHT SOUND STRANGE, BUT IM ENERGIZED..I LOVEit ..I LOVE IT!!”.....is this guy too much or what!!...2020


25 posted on 10/03/2019 3:29:40 AM PDT by basalt
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To: wastoute
I don't want any type of civil war. I want to see the criminals arrested, charged, prosecuted, and incarcerated in accordance with the Law.

Unfortunately, the Dept of Injustice and the Federal Bureau of Injustice are sitting on their hands.

Endless "investigations" that go no where. Endless "reports" that are never released.

26 posted on 10/03/2019 3:31:25 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Liz

Schiff needs to be run out of town on a rail.


27 posted on 10/03/2019 3:41:50 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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To: ClearCase_guy

To say nothing about his collusion with American Samoa.


28 posted on 10/03/2019 3:42:32 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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To: SkyPilot

Trump ... 2024, pass it on, it drives DemonRats nuts!!!


29 posted on 10/03/2019 3:49:01 AM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Trump’s collusion with Nepal will come to light next week and then he will surely be impeached. Film at 11.

"Nepal! Nepal! Nepal!"


30 posted on 10/03/2019 3:52:45 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Elitist Liberals have no idea the hunger and strength of the beast they have uncaged.)
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To: All
Screwball Schiff reading from Democraps' Impeachment Playbook warns that resistance to Congress’
demands counts as “evidence” of obstruction of justice, and warrants another impeachment charge.

Balderdash ..... pushback is NOT obstruction. Trump has a constitutional right to defend hmself.

Stomping on Trump's civil rights ..... trying to use pushback for impeachment.....only suggests they're out of options.

31 posted on 10/03/2019 3:54:38 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Liz

The sooner the Party of Hate, Violence, and Evil is consigned to the garbage dump of history, where it belongs, the better.


32 posted on 10/03/2019 3:57:29 AM PDT by Savage Beast (You'd think they'd learn from the Roadrunner Cartoons, but they just send off to Acme and try again.)
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To: Savage Beast
Short-sighted Democraps lurched into the Ukraine/Biden thingy not stopping to consider that outside
Deep State's blue enclaves of perversion, voting America looks at Hunter Biden......not as an innocent victim.....
but as a crack-addicted, widow-diddling sex maniac......a ne'er-do well living large off his White Privilege.
33 posted on 10/03/2019 4:05:29 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Liz

...and at his father, Joe Biden, as his powerful and cynical enabler.


34 posted on 10/03/2019 4:26:02 AM PDT by Savage Beast (You'd think they'd learn from the Roadrunner Cartoons, but they just send off to Acme and try again.)
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To: Savage Beast
.......not to forget Hunter's father, Joe Biden....
Hunter's powerful and cynical enabler....soon as the checks clear (cackle)
35 posted on 10/03/2019 4:29:49 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion b...No to forgt Hullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: wastoute

The WB didn’t lie. He only forwarded information he gathered from other sources who of course are probably lying. He can testify truthfully that he heard from others that Trump is a mean and silly man who bullied Zelensky.


36 posted on 10/03/2019 4:35:57 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: wastoute

“So, what is the punishment for whistleblower lying.”

Well they conveniently changed the rule requiring whistleblowers to give first-hand information so one can just claim they didn’t lie, just repeated something they heard somewhere.


37 posted on 10/03/2019 4:44:45 AM PDT by Zack Attack
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To: Liz

And why is taxpayer money given to foreign countries when their are homeless veterans and hungry children in THIS country?


38 posted on 10/03/2019 4:55:07 AM PDT by MidniteRyder
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s an idea. The Democrats could charge Trump with collusion with a different country once a week. They could claim “collusion” for the first half of the week and when no evidence appears, they can claim that the lack of evidence is proof of “obstruction.” All they have to do is change the name of the country and change a few other names - just plug it into their template and repeat. The media will eagerly parrot it all without so much as blinking. The outrage mob will in turn be outraged about country x, then country y. Google could erase the “news” about last week’s country. The slogan could be, “Trump has always been in collusion with (the country of the week).” This would keep the true believers in a constant state of manufactured outrage.


39 posted on 10/03/2019 5:04:02 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: wastoute

So, what is the punishment for whistleblower lying.


Perjury

The “whistle blower” sign an affidavit under oath that it was true. It is now clear the entire thing was set by the Democrats and the CIA so the affidavit is clearly false.

What is going to happen remains to be seen.

On a side note perhaps it is time to disband the entire CIA.

I believe a case could be made that they have created more problems for the US then they ever resolved. Intel is important but perhaps there should be a department that only collects data and is forbidden by law to interfere in either foreign or domestic affairs (as if that has stopped them from interfering with domestic politics)


40 posted on 10/03/2019 5:18:33 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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