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Amber Guyger's murder trial heads to jury after closing statements
NBC NEWS ^ | Sept. 30, 2019 | Erik Ortiz

Posted on 09/30/2019 2:13:43 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter

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To: Presbyterian Reporter

“She intended to kill him...She testified to that intent.”

Well that seems quite a foolish admission, I also didn’t realize she shot him twice, surely there was NO REASON to do that.

OK, but here’s my question, I see a lot of posts here saying they were having an affair, etc. But NOTHING of that sort has been established, has it?

Not trying to be argumentative, but the case is with the jury now, so the evidence has all been presented and I don’t think I’ve seen any indication that she could have had malice aforethought.

It’s really hard to imagine screwing up that bad, easier to think it was some secret motive, that really makes a lot more sense. But I’m sure we could all do it tomorrow were we unlucky and stupid enough. Maybe not shoot a guy, but who knows what tomorrow will bring?


61 posted on 09/30/2019 5:58:39 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: stockpirate

I read that she said she knew someone was in the apartment before she went in.
She literally failed to pause for 2 seconds even though and assess the situation while standing OUTSIDE the door.


62 posted on 09/30/2019 7:57:53 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: sport
its entirely possible to get off on the wrong floor and go to what you believe is your apartment.....if the door was ajar, everybody would either run away or push it in cautiously and if you're a cop, or a concealed gun owner, you would pull your weapon....

this is not murder....its not racism....its a tragedy for sure.....

convict of some lesser offense if you're out for blood but this was not murder....

63 posted on 09/30/2019 8:09:46 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

But she didnt push it in cautiously! She went in with intent to kill once she knew someone was inside.


64 posted on 09/30/2019 8:12:20 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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people like me and most others would back up and run....she is not dissimilar to other gun ho cops and concealed gun owners in that she pulled her weapon and was ready to "protect" her "turf".....

she's an idiot....not guilty of 1st degree murder......

and lets face the fact that murder charges were brought because she's white and the vic was black...

65 posted on 09/30/2019 8:16:33 PM PDT by cherry
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

In the State of Florida they can. They can’t discuss the case but they can converse among themselves.


66 posted on 09/30/2019 8:17:54 PM PDT by sport
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To: WASCWatch

Exactly, anyone can claim to be a cop. in fact there were home invaders dressing up to appear at first glance like cops, amd driving similar-detailed vehicles, and busting into peoples homes.

My point is the state generally protects their own to the point of absurdity. For example regular people cops try to interview right away without attorneys, knowing that people misremember things while still in a trauma state. Later they try to screw them when they remember things correctly because now ‘they changed their story’. However they let cops involved inshootings rest a few days before interviewing them because thy know the brain needs time to sort out the order of what actually happened in a fast traumatic event. They try to fuch over regular people though even though they know there are memory issues with folks who just went through a trauma experience. They don’t give two sh1ts.


67 posted on 09/30/2019 8:33:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: cherry

It would be better without women cops. Because moresituations are prone to scare them, because they are weaker and smaller and more insecure about stuff going bad, they pull their guns more and escalate situations that often wouldn’t have required it.


68 posted on 09/30/2019 8:35:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: cherry
I suppose that we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I believe that for reasons known to her, she intended to kill him. I also believe that the jury will walk her.

Years age in the State of Florida, a man caught his wife and her lover in their bedroom. He shot him twice. The prosecutor said first degree murder because he, after shooting him one time , shot him again, thus forming the intent to kill him between shot number one and shot number two. The jury agreed with the prosecutor and brought back a verdict of murder in the first degree.

I agree with you that it was a tragedy. It ruined that guy's night and did not do much for his day. As I stated before, I do not believe she has much to worry about. If the jury convicts her, it will surprise me.

69 posted on 09/30/2019 8:35:10 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport

I misspoke. I meant to say they can’t deliberate while sequestered.


70 posted on 09/30/2019 8:38:20 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The Portland,OR police union tells their members to not answer any questions if they are involved in any incident. If it’s good enough for them, it’s good enough for me.


71 posted on 09/30/2019 8:41:19 PM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Think nothing of it. It happens to all of us.


72 posted on 09/30/2019 8:48:26 PM PDT by sport
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

She had her mind on “extra curricular” activities at work (married cop lover) too much to absorb any training about situational awareness and de-escalation of situations. That’s very obvious considering that she wanted to get in touch immediately after this “tragedy” with her fornicating co-worker. Lesson to be learned here. Do not play in the sandbox at work (or anywhere else, if you’re married). Your mind won’t be on things you SHOULD concentrate on.


73 posted on 09/30/2019 10:13:39 PM PDT by taxpayerfatigue (Taxpayer Fatigue)
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To: taxpayerfatigue

I am watching closing statements just waiting for prosecutor to mention the red rug outside the door.


74 posted on 10/01/2019 5:55:03 AM PDT by pnz1 (#IMNOTWITHHER)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Guilty of Murder!!!

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/courts/2019/10/01/amber-guyger-convicted-of-murder-for-killing-botham-jean/?utm_source=pushly


75 posted on 10/01/2019 8:52:34 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

She shot an unarmed man sitting on his couch.

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Actually, No. Forensics proved that he got off the couch to confront her entering his apartment. He was immediately shot.


yeah... I’m doing the same if someone barges into my house... on the other hand, being that i have small children... i’m more likely to shoot someone who barges into my house.


76 posted on 10/01/2019 9:07:05 AM PDT by Levy78
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To: WASCWatch

“...No-knock raids are very dangerous to the lives of cops...”

They’re not real safe for the victims of wrong-house “no-knock raids” either.

Here’s a solution: Don’t DO No-Knock Raids, and NOBODY has to die... what a concept...

I keep trying to find the whole “No-Knock Raid” clause somewhere in the Constitution, but it keeps eluding me....

/s (as if, but...)


77 posted on 10/01/2019 9:12:04 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Levy78

You have small children and are likely to shoot someone barging into your house?

Get a good lawyer now. While you can. And a good therapist too. For when you shoot a child that barges in. Yours or a friend of your children.


78 posted on 10/01/2019 9:21:52 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: cherry

She failed to render aid. Murder.


79 posted on 10/01/2019 9:25:41 AM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Get a good lawyer now. “

Murder does not require premeditation. Heed your own advice.


80 posted on 10/01/2019 9:34:22 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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