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Ukraine call transcript shows Trump sought Biden probe, but made no mention of US aid
Fox News ^ | Sept 25, 2019 | Alex Pappas

Posted on 09/25/2019 7:07:16 AM PDT by rdl6989

The White House on Wednesday released a transcript of President Trump’s July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky showing him seeking a review of Biden family dealings in the country – but the document does not show Trump leveraging military aid as part of a quid-pro-quo, as Democrats have suggested in pressing forward with impeachment.

The transcript, declassified by Trump a day earlier, indicates the call – which Trump made from the White House residence -- took place July 25 from 9:03 a.m. to 9:33 a.m. It begins with the president congratulating Zelensky on his election victory, before Trump eventually broaches the subject former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

“There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great,” Trump said in the phone call. “Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it…It sounds horrible to me.”

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To: rdl6989
Drudge top headline:

Transcript released
Republican cracks emerge

LOL does he mean Romney?

101 posted on 09/25/2019 9:36:26 AM PDT by AU72
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To: babble-on
Trump said, fine, but you have to do me a little favor first digging up dirt on a political opponent.

You are adding things that are not in the transcript, which if done under oath is a form of perjury. (Remember, "the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth".)

Trump said nothing about doing a favor "first", thereby implying that if the favor was not done, the missiles would not be sold. By adding that word falsely, you change the entire context of the conversation. If you read the transcript, Trump was transitioning from one topic, which was raised by the president of Ukraine, to a different topic that Trump wanted to discuss. Nothing in the text of the transcript indicates a connection between the two topics. And the topic that Trump transitioned to had nothing to do with Biden, but rather dealt with an ongoing investigation into the alleged Ukraine involvement in the DNC "hack", which apparently has been obstructed by some in the previous Ukraine government.

102 posted on 09/25/2019 9:38:32 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: babble-on
what’s different?

fine, but you have to do me a little favor first

He never said that. I read the transcript.

His words after the javelins sentence ("we are almost ready to buy more javelines from the United States") were "I want you to do me a favor though".

Not "fine" or "you have to do me a little favor first". I read it in context and it appeared to me like he was simply changing and moving on to another the subject. Certainly no proof that the next sentence out of his mouth was somehow a "you can't buy javelins from me until you do xyz."

The President traditionally sticks and moves from one subject to the next. I don't feel it's fair to think that there is some sort of implication that they can't buy weapons until they grant a "favor".

Just because the sentences were next to each other doesn't mean their intrinsically linked.

It's perfectly natural in conversation to switch from one topic to another.
103 posted on 09/25/2019 9:39:51 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: CA Conservative

Z: I would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes.

T: I would like you to do us a favor, though.


104 posted on 09/25/2019 9:40:06 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: AU72

I think Drudge sold his site a couple of years ago. Non-disclosure keeps him from owning up to it. I think the site is in a slow transition to fake news. Slow, to drag viewers along to the dark side without them realizing it.


105 posted on 09/25/2019 9:41:21 AM PDT by Tellurian (Demonicrats would smugly tell even God "you didn't build that".)
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To: rdl6989

My observations:

1. Mueller (and the current house investigation) is done. This blows that investigation off the map and will not be heard again.

2. Biden is done. They have decided to swap Biden for newest impeachment claims. They cannot claim Trump asking for help from Ukraine benefits Trump unless Biden was guilty.

3. Trump knew something like this was going to happen to replace the Mueller investigation. He is holding his fire on releasing the investigation of the investigators because he knew a new acquisition would push everything else off the news.

4. My guess on the outcome is that Democrats have cried wolf one too many times and the general public will not be moved by this. Polls will not move much regarding impeachment.

5. President Trump is holding his fire and the results of his investigations and will time his defense and offense after he thinks they have played their hand.


106 posted on 09/25/2019 9:41:25 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: mmichaels1970

their = they’re....I hate when I do that.


107 posted on 09/25/2019 9:41:30 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: mmichaels1970

I put up the exact quote higher up in this thread, and have just done so again.

If you think that’s exculpatory for Trump with regards to a quid pro quo, I can recommend a tutor in the English language for you.


108 posted on 09/25/2019 9:41:51 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on

Read the transcript and then read what you wrote. If you can’t spot the very important difference, that would say a great deal about your mindset.


109 posted on 09/25/2019 9:42:23 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (This Deplorable is not fooled by the Marxist-Stalinist totalitarians infesting the Dem Party.)
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To: babble-on

Now that’s accurate. The subject of the discussion changed from one thing to the next. There was absolutely no inference from the President that one thing wouldn’t be done without another.


110 posted on 09/25/2019 9:43:52 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: babble-on
If you think that’s exculpatory for Trump with regards to a quid pro quo, I can recommend a tutor in the English language for you.

I think it IS exculpatory. As long as you don't recommend YOUR English teacher, I'm good with that.
111 posted on 09/25/2019 9:44:55 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: rdl6989

The conversation naturally progressed to The discussion of Biden after the UK PM said he wanted to ‘drain the swamp’.

Nothing wrong occurred in the conversation . It was a pleasant call actually.


112 posted on 09/25/2019 9:46:24 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: rdl6989

Well it’s not like he took secret video of Planned Parenthood admitting to selling baby parts. If that would have been the case...


113 posted on 09/25/2019 9:46:28 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: babble-on
Trump said, fine, but you have to do me a little favor first digging up dirt on a political opponent.

Did you even read the transcript yourself, or are you just quoting the talking points from MSNBC?

If you bother to read the transcript, after the comment about the missiles, Trump asked Ukraine to help in investigating Ukraine involvement in the DNC server hack (which is why he referenced Crowdstrike and the server).

With regard to the comment about Biden, he did not ask them to dig up "dirt"; he asked them to look into claims that Biden used the threat of withholding US foreign aid to quash a criminal investigation into a company for which his son was a board member. THAT would be a prima facie violation of the law, and Biden has publicly bragged about it. Why would it not be appropriate for the President to investigate if a government official used his position and government funds to benefit his family?

114 posted on 09/25/2019 9:47:59 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: butlerweave

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115 posted on 09/25/2019 9:48:35 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: babble-on

Yes, he moved from one topic to the next. And the next topic had nothing to do with Biden. So there is no way you can logically link the comment about missiles to the comment about Biden.


116 posted on 09/25/2019 9:51:59 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Yaelle; All
"Why would they have 5 people transcribing presidential calls? Sounds flintstonian."

Good question. It turns out this "transcript" is really a document called "A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation," something that's close to a verbatim transcript, but not quite that. What actually happens is there are five people listening to the conversation and each is taking notes that are as close to a transcript as possible, like a college history student taking the best possible notes of a professor's lecture he can, but not an actual transcript. Then the five sit sown and reconcile their notes to produce a quasi-transcript that's as accurate as possible. Here's the explanation of this from the "transcript":

CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty "Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned t_o listen.and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place. A numper of factors can affect 'the accuracy of the reco�d, including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent and/or interpretation. The word "inaudible" is used to indifate portions of a conversation that the notetaker was unable to hear.

117 posted on 09/25/2019 9:54:52 AM PDT by libstripper (a bit,)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Their hysteria is embarrassing.


118 posted on 09/25/2019 9:55:20 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: goldstategop
 
 
They don't care - they're blowing off the transcript. Just saw Shifty Schiff on TV - he crawled out from under his rock to indicate it's still full steam ahead for them.
 
 

119 posted on 09/25/2019 10:12:33 AM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: JudyinCanada

Biden’s protection racket approach was a corrupt misapplication of foreign aid, and a president is obliged to investigate it. Foreign aid is meant to be distributed out of a spirit of generosity and assistance, not the spirit of intimidation and threats. Had President Trump not acted to investigate it and place the US back on the road to being a generous nation, I’d be disappointed.


120 posted on 09/25/2019 10:14:24 AM PDT by DPMD
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