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911 call, body camera video played for jurors in Amber Guyger murder trial
FOX4 News ^ | 9/24/2019

Posted on 09/24/2019 8:31:35 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter

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To: ExTxMarine

How would they handle it if she was off duty, but in uniform and the VICTIM?

We all know.


41 posted on 09/24/2019 9:27:24 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

She murdered him.


42 posted on 09/24/2019 9:27:31 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Yeah, there has to be more to it.


43 posted on 09/24/2019 9:32:31 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Sans-Culotte

“If it was a “hit”, why did she call and report it to the police? “

Eyewitness says it didn’t sound like she was talking to police.


44 posted on 09/24/2019 9:32:35 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Mr Rogers
She pulled the trigger with intent to kill. Would a reasonable person have done so?

I think not.


If they thought they were in their own house, in Texas?

I think so.
45 posted on 09/24/2019 9:32:44 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated.)
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To: Mr.Unique

We do all know. But that is not the case which is being tried right now, so it is a moot point. A sad one, but still moot.


46 posted on 09/24/2019 9:33:55 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Another factor to consider is this:

If Cathy Citizen had been the women who allegedly entered the wrong apartment and immediately shot and killed the occupant, what would the police have done?

Would the police have arrested/taken in for questioning Cathy Citizen? Would the police have immediately taken possession of Cathy Citizen’s cell phone to see if there was incriminating information?

OR would the police let Cathy Citizen wander about for 4 days while deciding what to do? Like they did with Amber.

In those four days while Amber was free as a bird, she and her cop lover were able to delete an unknown amount of incriminating data from their cell phones.

The Dallas police are looking pretty bad in how they handled the situation after the shooting.

The jury is hearing about the cell phone deletions by Amber and her cop lover and that will be a major factor when the jury deliberates.

Deleting evidence is a major sign of being guilty.


47 posted on 09/24/2019 9:34:50 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: ExTxMarine

“Which does not PROVE that she intended to MURDER Mr. Jean.“

She intentionally committed an act of violence with a deadly weapon that any reasonable person would conclude would likely lead to his death. Her state of mind is irrelevant to the legal question at hand.

She’ll be lucky to get off with a conviction for manslaughter. Malice aforethought is not required for that.

L


48 posted on 09/24/2019 9:34:50 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

See post #38.

Obviously you do not understand Texas Murder law.

Intent is VERY relevant to the legal question at hand!


49 posted on 09/24/2019 9:38:31 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated.)
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To: ExTxMarine

“””If they thought they were in their own house, in Texas?”””


Amber was not IN her own house. Amber was OUTSIDE what she thought was her own house.

What would you do if came to the front door of your house and saw the door unlocked? Would you open the door and immediately start shooting at whatever moved? That is what Amber did. The prosecution painted a very clear timeline of Amber’s arrival at the parking garage and her call to 9-11.


50 posted on 09/24/2019 9:41:05 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
And she reacts like any police officer would, who has a gun with confronting a burglary suspect,”

Too bad Botham Jean didn't react the way any American homeowner would, who has a gun with confronting a burglar.

51 posted on 09/24/2019 9:43:30 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: ExTxMarine

Apparently she was in uniform. Do you really want to go down this idiotic line of reasoning? Perhaps this police officer was actually impersonating a police officer? WTF?


52 posted on 09/24/2019 9:44:50 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: ExTxMarine

“If they thought they were in their own house, in Texas?”

Would a reasonable person think they were in their own house when they were not?


53 posted on 09/24/2019 9:45:01 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Ok, that’s YOUR opinion.

Apparently you want me to agree that she should get the death penalty after one day of testimony. I’m sorry, but so far there are still far more questions for me; you have obviously already convicted her...probably did so before yesterday’s testimony, so the next few days are just “window dressing” for you.

I pray that you are NEVER allowed on a jury trial, if this is your idea of jury of your peers and “reasonable doubt.”


54 posted on 09/24/2019 9:46:17 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated.)
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To: Meatspace

LOL


55 posted on 09/24/2019 9:50:54 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: ExTxMarine
If they thought they were in their own house, in Texas?

The words 'thought they were in their own home' does not appear in the Texas Castle Doctrine. This cop had zero legal right to be where she was. She did have the legal obligation to be sure she was where she 'thought' she was before she dropped the hammer.

Texas law provides for a justifiable defense at trial when using deadly force if the person claiming self defense:

Reasonably believed the deadly force was immediately necessary;

Had a legal right to be on the property;

Did not provoke the person against whom deadly force was used; and

Was not engaged in criminal activity at the time the deadly force was used.

56 posted on 09/24/2019 9:52:04 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Is it time Claire?)
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To: ExTxMarine

Dude, this is not a jury. It’s a bunch of posters stating opinions without access to the arguments.


57 posted on 09/24/2019 9:52:22 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Alberta's Child
Do you really want to go down this idiotic line of reasoning?

Talk about an ignorant line of reasoning...apparently because she was in a uniform she is some how more "cop-py" than if she was in sweat pants?!?

Unlike your apparent belief that a uniform makes you unflappable, she was a human. And she claims to have been coming home from work (in her less than magical uniform) and made a mistake on where she parked and where she entered.
58 posted on 09/24/2019 9:53:14 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

“What would you do if came to the front door of your house and saw the door unlocked? “

Self-closing door with keycard.


59 posted on 09/24/2019 9:54:45 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Openurmind

Texas has very liberal laws regarding defense of person and property. I believe the prosecutor wanted manslaughter and the GJ listening to the mob wanted murder charged. I do not see a murder conviction here probably manslaughter or less.


60 posted on 09/24/2019 10:01:53 AM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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