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UK Supreme Court Rules Proroguation of Parliament 'Unlawful'
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Posted on 09/24/2019 3:14:29 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan

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To: bert

The mayor of London is a PaKi :) not a Pali


41 posted on 09/24/2019 6:42:50 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: nwrep

And they should be given another vote......40 years after Brexit is implemented.


42 posted on 09/24/2019 6:55:22 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Hostage; sinsofsolarempirefan; Winniesboy

From the text of the statement “The decision to advise Her Majesty to prorogue parliament was unlawful because it had the effect of frustrating or preventing the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions without reasonable justification. Parliament has not been prorogued. This is the unanimous judgment of all 11 justices.”

It seems that the Supreme Court is not asserting its power over the Queen, rather that it is stating that the advice given to the Queen was unlawful.

It does put the Queen in a nice pickle. I’m sure she’s angry - but the question is, at whom?


43 posted on 09/24/2019 7:33:08 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Boris is exactly the fire hose that can deliver such a purging. Oh, well. He unlawfully pro-rogated Parliament. Tsk. Tsk. I guess he has to resign as PM and force elections;-)


44 posted on 09/24/2019 7:40:22 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Cronos; All

clearly this proves that the globalists are in near total control of the UK— judiciary and parliament. their strength should not be underestimated elsewhere, such as with the current impeachment efforts against Trump in the US House of Representatives.

that johnson came to power as PM can now be viewed as an artifact of whatever weak strength remains in the UK parliamentary system itself. that system has now been damaged by its own judiciary (it will probably need fixing in the near future).

(speculation)

johnson can prorogue parliament again, and ideally he should, although it would possibly destroy his term as PM.

alternatively he could resign after october 18. would that not convert johnson into a caretaker PM? and he could just coast and the UK would coast with him into a hard brexit on oct. 31st.


45 posted on 09/24/2019 7:47:21 AM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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To: Cronos

It’s not the queen’s job to be angry. At least in a political sense. The crown gave up that perogative between the Magna Carta and victoria.
Now, they are merely puppets to a far greater power.


46 posted on 09/24/2019 7:51:23 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: Eleutheria5

He tried that, but he can’t. Thanks to the Fixed Terms Parliament Act he needs a 2/3 majority of the commons to approve an election. They have trapped him in a zombie government with a dysfunctiona parliament that will not vote to dissolve itself.


47 posted on 09/24/2019 7:53:44 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: nwrep; FLT-bird

I thought so too back in March. But now I think the numbers are just wrong.

There is too much angst and anger brought up. If there is to be a referendum 2.0 then it should be, in my opinion

Question: Now that you know what Brexit will be, we give you three choices:
A. Cancel Brexit
B. Theresa May’s deal with NI in a backstop and the rest of the UK out of the customs union and in a relationship like Canada to the EU.
C. A no-deal Brexit where all of the UK leaves the EU and the customs union and the relationship is Canada-EU

Please rank each of these options in your preferred ranking.

During counting the lowest option would be eliminated and then the winner based on first and second choices would be declared.


BUT, this will still create angst - I, surprisingly, agree with FLT-bird —> the next referendum should be after a generation.

It is too late for a meaningful referendum. England-Wales must leave with a hard no-deal or we would never hear the end of the moaning


48 posted on 09/24/2019 8:03:40 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Eleutheria5

you would think that Boris would resign, but going by his past career, I doubt it.

His entire life has been aimed at climbing the political tree, and he is now at the top. And it is all about him. He is going to stay there as long as possible.

He has been fired in the past while protesting his innocence, then climbing back up again without admitting any fault in any way. Why change the pattern which has served so well up to now?


49 posted on 09/24/2019 8:06:30 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: SteveH
Before jumping to any conclusion, I'd suggest reading The judicial summary
50 posted on 09/24/2019 8:07:49 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: SteveH; sinsofsolarempirefan; Winniesboy
that johnson came to power as PM can now be viewed as an artifact of whatever weak strength remains in the UK parliamentary system itself. that system has now been damaged by its own judiciary

I find fault in that conclusion - Johnson came to power elected in a primary, not in a general election. It would be analogous to if Obama resigns, it doesn't fall to biden, but there is an internal GOP primary with only Demoncrat registered voters electing the next President.

Johnson was angling for the PM position since 2000 - in fact he would have gotten it the last time if Gove didn't stab him in the back

Also, if he resigns I don't think it automatically becomes him as caretaker PM (I'm not sure about that) - the horrific thing would be if RED Corbyn becomes PM.

51 posted on 09/24/2019 8:12:53 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

I don’t quite understand that — he should be able to resign, right?


52 posted on 09/24/2019 8:13:51 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Brexit is never going to be allowed to happen. There are deep, evil forces at work here.


53 posted on 09/24/2019 8:15:37 AM PDT by Stravinsky
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To: Cronos

If the government resigns, what happens next?


54 posted on 09/24/2019 8:32:57 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Cronos

See what state-ists do?


55 posted on 09/24/2019 8:33:55 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
This is not state-ist or whatever-ist. The court wrote its reasoning here - available to read - I'd suggest reading it. The reasoning is sound because the "constitution" is vague
56 posted on 09/24/2019 8:39:53 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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AFAIK, a caretaker government, but I don’t know WHO would be leading the caretaker government


57 posted on 09/24/2019 8:41:05 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Well, in that case, parliament is trapped in Westminster Abbey with him. I guess he’ll just have to torture them until they beg to dissolve themselves. If he’s really the British Trump, I have every confidence that he’s up to the job;-)

Boy, what a dumb act that is. The main advantage of parliamentary government is that it does not tolerate stagnation and deadlocks. They went and enacted institutional moribundidity?! Pitt must be rolling over in his tomb.


58 posted on 09/24/2019 8:44:34 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: FlipWilson

They want a Brexit re-vote.

And they may get it now.


59 posted on 09/24/2019 8:46:04 AM PDT by david1292
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To: Cronos

#58 was meant for you, too, but somehow I ponged when I should have pinged, and your name was not added as an adressee.


60 posted on 09/24/2019 8:48:34 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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