Posted on 09/21/2019 8:50:09 AM PDT by kingu
Never before has a boon to public health been met with such hysteria and ingratitude.
Vaping is almost all upside in comparison with traditional smoking, a wanton destroyer of health and lives, and yet the nation is in the grip of a panic about e-cigarettes.
In a rarity for the Trump era, the anti-vaping sentiment jumps traditional geographic and political bounds, running from the Oval Office to San Francisco, from President Donald Trump to his most fervent enemies.
Trump announced a Food and Drug Administration ban on flavored e-cigarettes last week, while not too long ago the San Francisco Board of Supervisors banned the sale of vaping products at retail outlets and — seemingly more persnickety about this than, say, the use of heroin or public defecation — prohibited their delivery to addresses in the city.
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
I am not worthy to be on the same forum as you. Have you considered finding a forum where you are a better fit?
Nope. Just going to observe the behavior of the all too common North American Nanny State Busybody.
You’re a textbook example, after all. And some folks need to see it pointed out so they can recognize, also point it up, and then mock it unmercifully until it slinks away in well deserved shame.
Enjoy.
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CDC statistics for the 480,000 figure. (Roughly 7000 from cancer).
Panicked news reports for the 6 people figure.
I could have just told you I’m not your research librarian...
Well said. -Tom
Its all about money and regulation.
This thread reminds me once again that if every progressive suddenly dropped dead, we conservatives would still be arguing amongst ourselves, which gives the lie to the leftist claim that we blindly take our marching orders from Fox News, Trump, Rush, or anyone else.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/19/health/vaping-lung-injury-new-cases-530-bn/index.html
Update! That paragon of accuracy, CNN is now reporting 8 vaping deaths.
That’s up a third from last week.
We’re all gonna DIE!!!!
I think this sudden spate of deaths is caused by people experimenting with the vaping tubes (”Hey, did you know that you can use the tube to . . . ?”) and are putting substances in them for which they weren’t intended. People are using them like bongs, as drug paraphernalia, rather than simply for smoking the products that they were intended for.
Exactly! This is not a collective responsibility just as so many other things people think we should have government do and continue doing are not “collective” anything.
“I saw a guy smoking an e-cig recently and the cloud he exhaled was the size of a VW Beetle.”
That cloud of steam is truly disgusting. Maybe that’s part of the appeal of vaping. TV reports love to show those exhalings.
I love Ayn Rand and have a quote of her’s on my profile. That said, she was a drug user and addicted to meth.
She’s hardly the best authority for dealing with addiction.
We are really going through another round of prohibitionism. You can’t legislate against stupidity.
How about an “experiment” this time (this is the way it was supposed to be). If some states want to ban it fine. We can see what happens. Keep the Feds out of it.
Our federal government is so corrupt and tyrannical that whatever they do it always ends up hurting the people. Just look at the wars on terror, drugs, poverty.
I think that most Americans would appreciate wresting a little more control from our unjust and execrable federal government by allowing states to do more than picking out their State flower and motto.
I'm told the visual feedback of seeing the exhaled cloud is an important part of the experience. This followed a few one-on-one conversations with random vapers when I was curious if a product that administered nicotine without a huge cloud would have a market. Think something like an asthma inhaler. They weren't interested.
Back in the 50s there was an antibiotic ointment for scrapes and scratches, it worked very well, but sales were abysmal. The company hired a consultant who determined that mothers didn't think it worked, and the consultant advised adding a little alcohol to the formula to make it sting so mothers would "know" it worked. They did, sales soared.
>>> My 62 year old sister has such a severe case of COPD . . . thanks to vaping as a substitute for smoking
Non sequitur
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>>> Vaping is worse than smoking. My sister is proof.
Non sequitur
The stoners are taking over the schools: https://dcist.com/story/19/09/19/bill-would-let-students-get-medical-marijuana-treatment-in-d-c-schools/
Well if it’s illegal that’s more work for prisons and criminal and civil justice system.
A more significant study - one for which we will probably have to wait a while - would be the number of vapers who graduate to smoking.
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