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The Ridiculous Anti-Vaping Crusade
The National Review ^ | September 20, 2019 | RICH LOWRY

Posted on 09/21/2019 8:50:09 AM PDT by kingu

Never before has a boon to public health been met with such hysteria and ingratitude.

Vaping is almost all upside in comparison with traditional smoking, a wanton destroyer of health and lives, and yet the nation is in the grip of a panic about e-cigarettes.

In a rarity for the Trump era, the anti-vaping sentiment jumps traditional geographic and political bounds, running from the Oval Office to San Francisco, from President Donald Trump to his most fervent enemies.

Trump announced a Food and Drug Administration ban on flavored e-cigarettes last week, while not too long ago the San Francisco Board of Supervisors banned the sale of vaping products at retail outlets and — seemingly more persnickety about this than, say, the use of heroin or public defecation — prohibited their delivery to addresses in the city.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: governmentcontrol; hysteria; vaping
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To: kingu

The big danger in vaping is the nicotine overdose issue.

Nicotine overdose is between 30mg - 60mg.

A cigarette has 8mg.

Vaping products can easily exceed 30mg as people treat those things like pacifiers and continuously vape and are able to select how strong their vaping liquid is.

I’ve been around people who vape like it’s a pacifier. Their personality changes to highly belligerent and argumentative. Last Christmas was ruined by two idiots that pacifiered their vaping sticks and by evening time they would argue and fight about anything. It’s what nicotine poisoning does to a person.


41 posted on 09/21/2019 9:46:14 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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To: Wiser now

Well, that’s a scientific study.

Your sister’s lungs are already shot. She should just go back to smoking.


42 posted on 09/21/2019 9:48:08 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: CodeToad
However, vaping exceeds the previous smoker count. More teens vape than ever smoked.

Source please?

43 posted on 09/21/2019 9:48:36 AM PDT by null and void (<---powered by warm sunshine and gentle breezes and unicorn farts, don't forget the unicorn farts!)
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To: null and void

Reliable data?

Nowadays it is more fun to scream and point fingers!


44 posted on 09/21/2019 9:51:12 AM PDT by cgbg (Democracy dies in darkness when Bezos bans books.)
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To: fireman15
This thread is full of nonsense. The cigarette companies have become major players in the vaping business by making huge investments... including RJ Reynolds.

Buy out and kill off the competition.

RJR wouldn't be the first company to do this.

45 posted on 09/21/2019 9:51:24 AM PDT by null and void (<---powered by warm sunshine and gentle breezes and unicorn farts, don't forget the unicorn farts!)
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To: null and void

Go read any online source. I’m not your research librarian.


46 posted on 09/21/2019 9:52:04 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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To: The Great RJ

It is much better to “vape” pot. The danger in “smoking” pot comes from the carbon monoxide you get from burning. Vaping does not carbonized the plant.

People, generally, do not understand the pot business (99% of it is grown organically) nor how vaping works.

Reading these threads Shows me that many folks on FR are dangerously ignorant about everyday things.


47 posted on 09/21/2019 9:53:04 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt; Wiser now

*shrug* That would permanently eliminate the problem much sooner.


48 posted on 09/21/2019 9:53:18 AM PDT by null and void (<---powered by warm sunshine and gentle breezes and unicorn farts, don't forget the unicorn farts!)
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To: kingu

There are several Democratic Nanny State governors and dozens of Nanny State city councils that are targeting vaping and attempting to control people’s lives.

These dictators have no understanding of freedom.

It all starts from San Francisco and spreads across America.


49 posted on 09/21/2019 9:53:49 AM PDT by Meatspace
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To: Wiser now

COPD will do that.


50 posted on 09/21/2019 9:56:04 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Wiser now

I don’t mean to be a jerk, but it really sounds like your sister has some significant lung issues—emphysema, cancer, or something. People toss out the COPD word when they either don’t want to tell you what’s wrong...or they don’t want to know.

Someone with COPD should not be inhaling anything but air. If she is on constant O2, you might want to have a conversation with her—because she is not going to be around a lot longer.

Vaping, smoking....it doesn’t matter. The damage is done. Don’t point the blame anywhere beyond her behavior.


51 posted on 09/21/2019 9:58:25 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: CodeToad
IOW, you have no source and it's my job to confirm your assertions?

That's precisely what the trolls (not saying you are a troll, but...) did here early on, tie us up researching their cockamamie claims to keep us from posting and frustrate early FReepers so much that they simply went elsewhere.

I'm not going to be jerked around like that again, even for you.

52 posted on 09/21/2019 9:58:26 AM PDT by null and void (<---powered by warm sunshine and gentle breezes and unicorn farts, don't forget the unicorn farts!)
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To: cgbg
Nowadays it is more fun to scream and point fingers!

Yeah. I said it. You do the research to prove me wrong, I'm not your research librarian.

53 posted on 09/21/2019 10:01:10 AM PDT by null and void (<---powered by warm sunshine and gentle breezes and unicorn farts, don't forget the unicorn farts!)
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To: Meatspace

I and thousands of other conservatives freely marched into voting booths to regulate/restrict/tax the scourge of cigarettes. The smoking wars are over.

The callous regard of turning children into addicts will meet with the same reaction. We WILL regulate/restrict/tax vaping till childhood addiction is fixed. Full stop.


54 posted on 09/21/2019 10:01:42 AM PDT by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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To: null and void

So, you have zero intellectual curiosity to research something but blame someone else for your ignorance on the subject.

You will take a single source some anonymous person gives you as proof of something.

You could have searched and found multiple sources faster than it took you to insult someone for not doing the search for you.

The dumbing down of America on display.

Since you’re such a feeble minded person, the numbers are that 27% of teens admit vaping but only 7% smoke cigarettes. I’d suggest you go search for those facts, but you’ve proven you don’t have the mental capacity to do so.


55 posted on 09/21/2019 10:02:05 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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To: Drango

Like a fly to a steaming dung pile here you are right on cue.

L


56 posted on 09/21/2019 10:02:35 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

You’re not gonna cry are you?


57 posted on 09/21/2019 10:03:15 AM PDT by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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To: Vermont Lt
It is much better to “vape” pot.

Perhaps. The issue seems to be not carbon monoxide, but coating the insides of one's lungs with scorched oil.

58 posted on 09/21/2019 10:03:58 AM PDT by null and void (<---powered by warm sunshine and gentle breezes and unicorn farts, don't forget the unicorn farts!)
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To: null and void

” grand total of 6 people have died from tinkering with non-manufacturer vape solutions. (THC in oil rather than nicotine in water-based solutions)
Compare to the 480,000 or so who die of tobacco related illnesses every year.

Which industry is about to have the full weight of the federal government attempt to crush it?

Sources, please. Don’t be a jerk and refuse to be our research librarian and provide them.


59 posted on 09/21/2019 10:04:31 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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To: kingu

The Left wants to control every aspect of our lives.


60 posted on 09/21/2019 10:05:00 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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