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Democrats Refuse to Include Gang Members in “Red Flag” Laws
Ammoland ^ | 19 September, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 09/21/2019 7:08:48 AM PDT by marktwain

Democrats Refuse to Include Gang Members in "Red Flag" Laws

On 10 September 2019, Colorado Congressman Ken Buck (R-CO) offered an amendment to the proposed bill to create federal grants for  “Red Flag” bills in the House of Representative. The amendment was offered in the Judiciary Committee.  Representative Ken Buck's introduction of the amendment occurs in the first minute and ten seconds of the video on C-Span. “Red Flag” bills allow police to confiscate guns from people with a mere accusation they may pose a threat. In Red Flag bills, there is little due process.

An accusation is sufficient. No court appearance by the accused, or confrontation of witnesses, is required.  There is no presumption of innocence. To regain their rights, the person accused has to prove they are “not* a danger. They may incur thousands of dollars of court costs to regain the property that was taken from them without due process.

Representative Buck's amendment would allow law enforcement agencies, on probable cause of a person belonging to a criminal gang, to use “Red Flag” laws to take guns from gang members.

Representative Buck offered testimony that most murders and violent crimes involving guns are committed by gang members. The standard of probable cause is much higher than a mere accusation from a family member or other person who may have motivation to make false charges, about potential future conduct.

The amendment pointed out the hypocrisy of the Left. The Committee Chairman, Representative Nadler, said a taking guns from a person, for simply being on a database, would violate due

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1moretime; banglist; dueprocess; redflag; redflaglaws; secondamendment
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Democrats don't want due process, except for their protected classes.
1 posted on 09/21/2019 7:08:48 AM PDT by marktwain
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Birds of a feather flock together.


2 posted on 09/21/2019 7:11:49 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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Red Flag “laws” would immediately be used as POLITICAL WEAPONS by the Marxist RATS. You can be your life on it.


3 posted on 09/21/2019 7:13:18 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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Bkmrk


4 posted on 09/21/2019 7:13:52 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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Well of course they don’t want to include gang members

How are they going to sic the gang members on a disarmed Americans if the gang members are unarmed too


5 posted on 09/21/2019 7:14:08 AM PDT by rdcbn ( Referentia)
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In the countries where these groups come from, Salvador and Honduras, just HAVING 18th street or MS13 tattoos lands you in prison where you STAY. Not kidding. If we deport these people and notify the authorities they are coming they should go straight to prison, do not pass go.


6 posted on 09/21/2019 7:18:37 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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The majority of gang members don’t legally own guns. They are either convicted felons or they own stolen guns that have had their serial numbers removed. Red flag laws will only target law abiding gun owners.


7 posted on 09/21/2019 7:24:59 AM PDT by Rdct29
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Red flag laws will only target law abiding gun owners.

Yes, they are for law abiding gun owners only.

Mainly conservatives and not the ultra rich elites.
8 posted on 09/21/2019 7:30:08 AM PDT by ssfromla
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They have already been trying to classify the NRA as a terrorist organization. Do you think maybe they will immediately “red flag” anyone who has ever been a member?


9 posted on 09/21/2019 7:33:19 AM PDT by fireman15
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Seems like a fair inclusion if someone insists on red flag laws: gang members, Antifa, communists, socialists, drug users, and Islamic cult members.


10 posted on 09/21/2019 7:48:34 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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Hello, Red Flag people? Yeah, hey, my neighbor is nuts. He played the Greenwood song Proud to be an American. Can you come take his guns?

Right away sir. Our armoured deputies will be right over to crash his door and search his house..


11 posted on 09/21/2019 7:58:21 AM PDT by lurk
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The Demomnicrat position is congruent with their previous actions of giving aid and comfort to the enemy.


12 posted on 09/21/2019 8:09:51 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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Seems like a fair inclusion if someone insists on red flag laws: gang members, Antifa, communists, socialists, drug users, and Islamic cult members.

You just listed a bunch of the EXCLUSIONS Democrats will insist on.


13 posted on 09/21/2019 8:12:12 AM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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How are they going to sic the gang members on a disarmed Americans if the gang members are unarmed too

Exactly. The Neo-Marxist janissaries have to come from somewhere.

14 posted on 09/21/2019 8:14:44 AM PDT by PGalt
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Democrats would rather orchestrate suicide for the USA


15 posted on 09/21/2019 8:21:52 AM PDT by ActresponsiblyinVA
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"An accusation is sufficient. No court appearance by the accused, or confrontation of witnesses, is required."

I ain't no stinking, filthy, dirty ass lawyer but to me that sounds completely, totally and absolutely unconstitutional... :(

16 posted on 09/21/2019 8:28:56 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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The way this country is going, no democrat should be allowed to own a firearm.


17 posted on 09/21/2019 8:32:57 AM PDT by drypowder
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The RATS do not want gang members included as they are the ones perpetrating the violence against people that the RATS want out of the way. They protect ANTIFA, MS-13, BLE, ETC. as they are under the RATS control and attack the enemies of the RATS. I.E. god-fearing, Law-abiding America Citizens. (Which we know the RATS hate and despise).
18 posted on 09/21/2019 8:37:23 AM PDT by RollingThunder ( LIBERALS - Lying Ignorant Bums Endangering Real American Lives & Society)
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It is the way it works. The police show at the subject's door to take the subject's guns. And they leave with them. And in some cases, the subject is taken to the morgue should they protest vociferous. However, they do take the guns, and it is unconstitutional. But they get way with it.
19 posted on 09/21/2019 8:44:46 AM PDT by sport
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Of course the will exclude them. If they didn’t their Antifa buddies would not be able to own arms.


20 posted on 09/21/2019 8:47:15 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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