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Kidnapping and enslaving people is evil. But the people so victimized are long gone. The descendants of slaves are actually lucky to be living in America rather than Africa.
1 posted on 09/20/2019 5:55:19 AM PDT by karpov
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The talk is harmful because they can’t clearly identify the “class action” participants?

No, the talk is harmful because it reinforces the idea that blacks are perpetual children who could never survive without handouts. Whites and Indians were worked to death in the Caribbean before blacks; show me the money (/s)


2 posted on 09/20/2019 5:57:40 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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“ a conversation.” During which white people will be told to shut up!


3 posted on 09/20/2019 5:58:07 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Reparations promotes victimhood and diminishes self responsibility.


4 posted on 09/20/2019 5:58:49 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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a glimpse of why this idea is terrible.

Redistributionism + guaranteed income + reparations + budget deficits + confiscatory taxation + government borrowing + creation of money out of thin air/inflation + excessive government spending/consumption expenditure = capital decumulation = economic decline & decay = mass poverty

6 posted on 09/20/2019 6:04:42 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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The race of professional victims looking for another way to shakedown the taxpayer; Obama made the template with the Pigford Settlement.
7 posted on 09/20/2019 6:07:19 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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Warren is hoping that, if reparations are paid to blacks, then the payments will also be extended to American Indians.

If all black Americans are eligible, then Obama would qualify for a payment...or any illegal alien of African descent who snuck across the border last year.

A lot of white people have ancestors who endured working conditions as bad as those suffered by slaves. In theory they could have left that job for another but in practice that might not have been a realistic option. Some whites were brought to the colonies against their will after being caught in a petty crime (see Daniel Defoe's Moll Flanders)--their options were to be transported as labor several years as an indentured servant or be hanged in London. Who knows how many millions of white Americans may have someone like that in their family tree.

8 posted on 09/20/2019 6:08:42 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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The African slaves were captured and sold by AFRICAN muslim tribes that didn’t allow Europeans to have a part.

You want reparations? Go back to Africa and take it up with those tribes who are still there, who celebrate their part in the slave trade and many of whom still trade in slaves.

If any American entity would be responsible for reparations it would be the Democrat party, party of slavery.


11 posted on 09/20/2019 6:15:57 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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Yes, because racistly attacking the whole America to be taxed for slave reparations is so beneficial, instead of putting the finger on the criminal racist culprit, the Democrat party ideology....


12 posted on 09/20/2019 6:16:00 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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Blacks did it to themselves as much as any white person did it.


13 posted on 09/20/2019 6:21:33 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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I'm sick of black people doing 'white face' AND doing white hair...

Even on MSNBC many black women lighten their skin and wear wigs that imitate 'white people's hair'. Talk about appropriation - they've made an industry out of it.

It's triggering to us to see black people appropriating our hair... our face... and our mannerisms. Where's the outrage?

What's the matter with the black community? There's even cosmetic sections at Walmart and Walgreens etc for 'lighten your skin' cosmetics - sitting beside 'straighten your hair' lotions... Does Walmart have a section of cosmetics on how to 'do' blackface? Black people's hair? NO. And there should NOT be a store section on how to imitate a 'white look'...

Let's deal with this before we even start to talk about reparations - for people who were NEVER slaves... one outrage at a time.

14 posted on 09/20/2019 6:22:19 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Daniel Okrent HELP - lowlife editors at the New York Times need YOU... they've lost their way.)
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I’m not responsible for things done by other people. Guilt does not pass through the genes, in spite of the ridiculous doctrine of “original sin,” and guilt does not affect people simply because they have a skin shade like that of most of slaveholders.


16 posted on 09/20/2019 6:24:53 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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Unfortunately, as horrible an idea as reparations is, I think it will eventually happen. Maybe not in my lifetime, but I’d be surprised if it doesn’t happen by 2050. Like a whack-a-mole the idea keeps popping up and more & more liberals are for it. As much as I hate to admit it, the liberals keep getting their way. And the countries changing demographics don’t bode well for the status quo.

What for the reparations will take is still TBD. But it will probably be some kind of payment. Basically, getting paid for being Black. Likewise other groups like American Indians, Latinos, etc. will demand their own for supposed racial crimes.

By 2100, you’ll have everyone being paid a stipend, except a shrinking number of White people. However, by that time, it will all be the equivalent of Monopoly money anyway.


19 posted on 09/20/2019 6:30:17 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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My great great grandfather and great uncle were killed. My great grandfather lost a leg in the Civil War. They fought for the Union.

If reparations are given out, our family wants 3 shares.


21 posted on 09/20/2019 6:36:01 AM PDT by wintertime (I shun government K-12 teachers.)
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If you’re only half black, do you just get half the reparations amount?

How about if you’re just 10% black?


22 posted on 09/20/2019 6:49:08 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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The idea that unless you can actually trace your family directly to a slave that you haven’t been subject to the legacy of slavery

I don't care if they have been 'subject to the legacy of slavery' or not. There is not a people or nation on this earth that hasn't been to subject to or perpetuated slavery or all kinds of different 'evils'. Blacks should worry about their own atrocious histories not to mention their current day pathologies.

24 posted on 09/20/2019 7:08:29 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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Racial mau-mauing is what Democrats need to do to keep blacks on their plantation.

They lose them and they’re no longer politically competitive. Stoking racial polarization helps them.

I will never pay the race merchants and race hustlers a dime for things I’m not responsible for and which I didn’t commit:


25 posted on 09/20/2019 7:11:26 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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“Kidnapping and enslaving people is evil. But the people so victimized are long gone... “


Yes, slavery was evil. It should have never been allowed in the Colonies, an extremely bad mistake.

INAL, but I’m pretty sure that the statute of limitation expired well over 100 years ago for any claims of harm. The push for “reparations” today is nothing more than a cynical attempt to foment racial tension for left-wing political gain.


27 posted on 09/20/2019 7:27:10 AM PDT by Synthesist
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“The idea that unless you can actually trace your family directly to a slave that you haven’t been subject to the legacy of slavery is a bunch of hogwash.”

They are just say that because they know a good chunk of them don’t even know who there fathers and/or their mothers are. Hard to do a family tree if you have no starting point.


28 posted on 09/20/2019 7:32:33 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Cory Booger also came out with a plan to pay reparations to people who were busted for pot possession.


31 posted on 09/20/2019 9:48:47 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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The vagueness of the whole debate is perfect for Democrat demagogues, they can stir up resentment and demands, without either thinking through the real consequences and damage reparations will certainly do, all the time knowing that they never actually have to do anything.

This affair is just another component of the political fraud that drives today’s Democrat Party and the Left in general. It represents and illustrates the very nature of “The Party of Fraud”. This and every other dishonest scam these fools burden us all with should be dismissed and derided as idiocy.


35 posted on 09/21/2019 1:35:53 PM PDT by Richard Axtell (I am at a loss, how much lower will they go before all hell breaks loose?)
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