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Deterrence can't exist without punishment. Economic stress without military strikes means Iran develops a nuke, mounts it on ballistic missiles, and starts using them like conventional weapons against its neighbors - possibly against their oil fields. By reducing the supply of oil worldwide and spiking oil prices, it breaks the blockade by creating incentives for other countries to buy Iranian oil on the sly. If Trump isn't going to strike the Iranian nuke program, he might as well end the sanctions and go back to the Obama deal with Iran.
1 posted on 09/20/2019 5:01:01 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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If Trump isn't going to strike the Iranian nuke program

And what, in the US Constitution or the US Code, would give him the authority to do that?

2 posted on 09/20/2019 5:02:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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Balderdash

The Trump sanctions are infact killing Iran. The Iranian lash out is in response to the sanctions. The lashing out has not had any effect on the sanctions. Iran is still losing and lacks the will to start the all out war that will result in their total destruction

Iran is in a lose, lose , lose position

The coalition is watching Iran die


3 posted on 09/20/2019 5:07:02 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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Iran’s brazenness.

And our so-called allies willingness to stab us in the back, sanctions busting and funneling money to Iran...


4 posted on 09/20/2019 5:08:46 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard sees)
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“If Trump isn’t going to strike the Iranian nuke program, he might as well end the sanctions and go back to the Obama deal with Iran.”

Who said there couldn’t be another Stuxnet? Blowing up and taking ships hostage will only force America to upgrade its refineries and capacities to help meet the reduction in the Gulf.


5 posted on 09/20/2019 5:18:54 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (When you think about what the left is doing to America, think no further than Cloward-Piven)
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And fifth, the United States’ struggle to cobble together a maritime coalition to deter Iranian tanker attacks exposed the diplomatic cost of the White House’s unilateral policies on Iran: Only Australia, Bahrain and the United Kingdom have joined the U.S.-led mission.

What nonsense. Look at the force composition for Operation Earnest Will. The United States alone can handily take down Iranian forces in the Persian Gulf any time it wishes.

The rest of the article is equally panty-wetting drivel.

Bottom line here is that as long as we allow Iran to behave irresponsibly, it will.

6 posted on 09/20/2019 5:22:30 AM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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The Persian godfathers learned their lessons well from the Mafia. Don’t want BAD things to happen, ya know? Just business, nothing personal.

We’ll be back next week, to collect the next installment of protection money. Oh, the base amount is $15 billion, just have it ready.

Have a nice day.


8 posted on 09/20/2019 5:29:59 AM PDT by alloysteel (Nowhere in the Universe is there escape from the consequences of the crime of stupidity.)
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Oh Yeah, Reva Goujon (?????) should know all about it.

FRom under what rock do these people come??????


10 posted on 09/20/2019 5:41:05 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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Just the oposite.

Iran is making themselves look bad to the world every time they hijack a tanker, or bomb fuel that hikes up energy costs. The more the US retrains itself from looking like a trigger happy aggressor looking for an excuse, but rather, a reasonable participant in geopolitical discourse, the worse things get for Iran


12 posted on 09/20/2019 5:47:07 AM PDT by z3n
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Just me or does this read as if it’s meant to cheese Trump off and embarrass him into action? The war hawks are desperate.


19 posted on 09/20/2019 6:26:10 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan
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Sans fracking I haven’t the tiniest doubt their War Ploy would work.

With fracking..?

Hmmmm....

Adulterated in a fell way, US politics are such that I must conceed Iran might still succeed, to the great benefit of more than two major foreign entities.


21 posted on 09/20/2019 6:30:42 AM PDT by gaijin
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HEADLINE: “Tulsi Gabbard says U.S. should re-enter Iran nuclear deal, end sanctions in response to Saudi Arabia drone attack”

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3779965/posts


24 posted on 09/20/2019 6:51:39 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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I half wonder if the Israel sold them and stole their nuclear program - it seems very mossad


25 posted on 09/20/2019 7:00:29 AM PDT by datricker (Cut Taxes Repeal ACA Deport DACA - Americans First, Build the Wall, Lock her up MAGA!)
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Patience

President Trump is going to act at the time and place of his choosing

Now is not a good time, especially in light of the ongoing Israeli election drama.

29 posted on 09/20/2019 7:27:44 AM PDT by rdcbn ( Referentia)
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I’m a strong believer in both unconventional operations and “plausible deniability”. Iran has major vulnerabilities that could throw a monkey wrench into their schemes, severely foul their economy, and strongly undermine their regime.

A major element of such an unconventional element would be with the US and two allies, Israel and Saudi Arabia, each of whom have very different capabilities that could work in concert.

The US could take out much of Iran’s surface and submarine fleet, all at once, perhaps using Chinese made limpet mines and other weapons. Israel could sabotage or even destroy several major hydroelectric dams, costing them a lot of electricity and water.

And the Saudi army would act as an active threat to keep the Iranian army out in the field and out of the cities. This would just require a mobilization and staging area, as well as deploying anti-missile defenses.


30 posted on 09/20/2019 7:34:09 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberalism is the belief everyone else should be in treatment for your disorder.)
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The Iranians believe the US will back off when American blood is spilled... and they’re pushing to get to that point.

We can’t do this on their time schedule.

Our plan is to assume this could be a long and deadly war.. and to make plans to ‘win on first strike’ IF we must go to war with Iran. NOT slowly escalate... IF we must go to War with them have it over on Day 2...


35 posted on 09/20/2019 8:24:06 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Daniel Okrent HELP - lowlife editors at the New York Times need YOU... they've lost their way.)
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