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Russia allegedly gives Syria green light to use S-300 system against Israeli warplanes
Al-Masdar News ^
| 9/18/2019
| News Desk
Posted on 09/19/2019 2:02:10 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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Syrian government outlet puts the credibility of the S-300 system (and possibly its sibling, the S-400) on the line. Will Israeli warplanes now start falling from the sky? Will Russian S-300 operators assigned to Syria start returning in body bags? Stay tuned.
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posted on
09/19/2019 2:02:10 PM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
To: Zhang Fei
Did the Syrians get the real S300/S400, or the monkey model?
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posted on
09/19/2019 2:03:33 PM PDT
by
NorthMountain
(... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
To: Zhang Fei
That just qualifies them as really good targets.
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posted on
09/19/2019 2:11:03 PM PDT
by
Track9
To: Zhang Fei
Now the world once more gets to see how poorly Russian military equipment performs. You’d think they’d have learned their lesson by now.
To: Zhang Fei
I suspect the Russians are looking for excuses, not results.
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posted on
09/19/2019 2:13:17 PM PDT
by
Ingtar
(Funds Robbed from Everyone Else. F.R.E.E.)
To: NorthMountain
[Did the Syrians get the real S300/S400, or the monkey model?]
May not make much of a difference. Once the electronics, software and materials revolutions got under way, anything military that doesn’t primarily involve lots of steel in its production has bifurcated. There’s the far superior Western gear and the far inferior Russian version. Russian gear has great specs. Problem is the performance almost never lives up to those specs. Whereas Western gear generally outperforms published specs, to provide a margin of error for the operator, in extremis.
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posted on
09/19/2019 2:21:56 PM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
To: AlaskaErik
A few months back a missile from a S-300 launched in Syria (supposedly launched at an Israeli jet) blew up over Cyprus. Look at the map. I’m quite sure the system is designed so if a missile misses its tracked target it detonates as to prevent that from happening. It was a bigger fail than most people realize.
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posted on
09/19/2019 2:25:11 PM PDT
by
gr8eman
(Only the mediocre are always at their best)
To: Zhang Fei
Good opportunity to get some nice emission signature captures. The waveform data should be quite useful.
To: Zhang Fei
Approximately 25 fixed-wing aircraft were lost in the Iraq war. There has been more than a decade of improvements made in missile technology. They are deadly.
Anti-missile defenses have also been improved.
The question remains as to whether the offense or the defense has made the most strides. It will be a dangerous experiment for the players on each side.
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posted on
09/19/2019 2:45:43 PM PDT
by
oldplayer
To: Zhang Fei
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posted on
09/19/2019 2:58:51 PM PDT
by
Magnum44
(My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
To: oldplayer
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posted on
09/19/2019 3:00:25 PM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
To: oldplayer
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posted on
09/19/2019 3:04:51 PM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
To: oldplayer
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posted on
09/19/2019 3:09:51 PM PDT
by
NorthMountain
(... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
To: Zhang Fei
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posted on
09/19/2019 3:10:19 PM PDT
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NorthMountain
(... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
To: oldplayer
Approximately 25 fixed-wing aircraft were lost in the Iraq war ... They are deadly. Key word "lost". Very few to enemy SAMs. Most were crashes, friendly fire, etc. Of course, they didn't face anything like the S300. But then, defeating air defenses is about tactics, planning and intelligence. Also, I don't believe for a minute that the S300 system has been held back all this time. Sounds more like making excuses for poor performance.
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posted on
09/19/2019 3:31:02 PM PDT
by
ETCM
To: Zhang Fei
“Theres the far superior Western gear and the far inferior Russian version. “
And then there’s the Chinese version, which doesn’t even live up to the Russian version.
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posted on
09/19/2019 3:36:48 PM PDT
by
Mariner
(War Criminal #18)
To: Zhang Fei
You makes your money on replacement parts and upgrades.
To: Zhang Fei
I suspect we’re going to see a lot of crappy Russian SAM systems being taken out by Israeli F-35’s.
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posted on
09/19/2019 4:09:08 PM PDT
by
fatman6502002
((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
To: gr8eman
That’s true. I used to work combat systems for AIRPAC and the SM (15 years ago) series missiles would self destruct after losing a target. After launch they 3 seconds (if my memory is correct) to establish a data link with the ship, if it didn’t, it would self destruct.
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posted on
09/19/2019 4:14:52 PM PDT
by
fatman6502002
((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
To: Zhang Fei
Will Israeli warplanes now start falling from the sky? Will Russian S-300 operators assigned to Syria start returning in body bags? Or maybe Israel will just stay out of Syrian airspace.
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posted on
09/19/2019 4:18:10 PM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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