Posted on 09/16/2019 9:29:33 PM PDT by Cronos
...The Luxembourg prime minister did not hold back. The leave campaign had been built on lies, he said. Johnson’s oft-repeated claims of progress in the talks were baseless. London had come up with nothing to replace the backstop.
the UK was to blame for the impasse. “I just want to repeat and remind that Theresa May accepted the withdrawal agreement,” he said. Britain’s “homemade” problems were causing “general problems” for the whole of the EU.
This was barely concealed anger at the disingenuous game being played by the British government.
..There are grave doubts, after his suspension of parliament and failure to advance any concrete proposals, that the prime minister wants a deal at all – and, should one be achieved, that he could get it through parliament.
as Bettel’s exasperation made clear, officials in Brussels, and leaders in national capitals, are running out of patience
Many now dread the prospect, remote as it may seem, of a second referendum. “Why on earth would you want a country so bitterly and hopelessly divided to stay?” asked one diplomat. “The wounds are going to last generations. How damaging would that be to Europe? Come back, maybe – but leave and sort things out first.”
The EU27 members do not trust Johnson, but many have little confidence in Jeremy Corbyn or in the quarrelsome tribes of remainers either. Certainly, they would rather have a deal: no one wants to be seen to have helped the UK jump off a cliff.
But that deal clearly cannot come at any cost. Twenty-six member states will, first, never abandon Ireland when it insists on the need for an operable backstop because, despite the clout of Germany and France, the EU remains a club of small countries, most with populations smaller than 10 million
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Parliament has the final say in the UK, much like the Senate has the final say on treaties in the US.
True, the trade deal between the UK and the USA is akin to you being in a fair deal to play NFL with a professional.
We must remember that it was the UK that negotiated a deal without checking with its parliament first, and it was the UK that has twice asked for an extension.
And that it has been 55 days of boris in office but he hasn’t provided any proposed new deal to the other 27 despite claiming to have done so.
This nightmare is of the UK’s making
And the government is the representative of parliament in negotiations.
The fault is of the UK governments that it didn’t and doesn’t get the parliament’s blessings before negotiating.
The previous 2 years was a waste and therefore, unless Boris can prove any deal he makes will pass through a parliament that loathes him, any potential deal he will propose (he hasn’t proposed one yet) will also be a waste.
Perhaps parliament should negotiate with the EU then?
31 Oct ain’t that far away...
We have no customs union with Canada.
We now have high tariffs on Chinese goods, but Canada to US smuggling isn’t significant despite thousands of miles of unguarded border.
There were duty-free shops in my youth.
No Dubliner is going to spend 20 Euros on petrol to buy stuff five pounds cheaper in Belfast.
British farmers are why I can’t donate blood.
That’s not years, is it....
No, that would be the Jehovah’s witnesses :)
Not funny, pard. There are millions of Americans who can’t donate blood thanks to the UK.
Are UK and Irish VAT rates equal?
I don’t think they are. But companies pay the right amounts.
Tariffs would be dealt with in the same manner as VAT.
Boris and a few other Conservatives should spend a weekend at Chequers writing out a proposed deal.
Allow me to correct myself....Fair - as in both parties agree that what they’re getting out of the deal is what each party wants and is willing to give up. Which is in complete contrast to what is/has been going on for the last few decades where the US Government, at the behest of Wall St, has given away the farm and got nothing in return.
Toyota operates globally and correctly pays the large numbers of different tax rates and amounts, as do other multi-nationals.
I like to think Boris & Co have already have it fleshed out, but don’t want to hand it over to the EU yet because they know it will be leaked and subsequently give the U.K.’s EU-loving globalists time to pick it apart, trash it and outlaw it. Maybe Boris thinks it wiser to wait until the last possible moment so as to thwart any further opportunities for them to do so.
Then again, he may just present May’s BRINO Surrender Deal, “re-heated”, with a few tweaks. We’ll just have to wait and see.
As long as we don’t continue to get screwed by Wall St, the Chamber of Commerce and the Globalists, I don’t care how long it takes. The UK made their bed, they have to deal with it. We finally have someone that is willing to change the way we’ve been doing business for decades, to our advantage.
Thanks for the explanation.
The Gaurdian -read no further.
Not if Trump engages personally.
True, that would help overcome on the US side - but the problem will be on the British side where they will want protection for their farmers and open markets on the US side
Yes, it would take a long time to get through the minutae of the deal.
Trump is good for America - but note that the USA is not the UK. The USA is a hyper-power that produces enough raw materials (minerals, oil, agriculture) etc. and is a manufacturing powerhouse and leads in innovation and services and has the global currency.
The UK doesn’t have any of this - it’s a decent sized power for now, but it can’t do what the USA does.
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