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California Bans Private Prisons – Including Ice Detention Centers
The Guardian ^ | 09/12/19 | Darwin BondGraham

Posted on 09/13/2019 5:23:24 PM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: Enlightened1

Oh, no. They will still arrest just as many if not more. It’s just that the “protected” class members will be getting instantly released. They’ll be out before the inkjet printer ink is dry on the arrest paperwork log.


21 posted on 09/13/2019 6:17:45 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Enlightened1

“How can a State ban Federal facilities?”

We settled that question back in 1865.

L


22 posted on 09/13/2019 6:19:02 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Enlightened1

Well, since we are struggling to find some way to get along with the communist Chinese lets outsource detention and repatriation of noncitizens to Communist China.


23 posted on 09/13/2019 6:19:57 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: wastedyears

Thnx

Some i hadn’t seen before


24 posted on 09/13/2019 6:23:43 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: Enlightened1

Why doesn’t President Trump tell Mexico that it can have California back provided it builds a secure wall along the Arizona, Nevada, and Oregon borders?


25 posted on 09/13/2019 6:27:04 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

“If you’re going to release them why bother catching them in the first place?”

They don’t. The cops have learned their lessons, they don’t even bother going out for the majority of crimes. They found out they get the same paycheck without the hassle.


26 posted on 09/13/2019 6:41:14 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: Enlightened1

Remove profit motive?? How about capping OT pay for state prison guards at $100,000 a year?


27 posted on 09/13/2019 7:17:14 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Obscured by Clods)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

the federal laws are different than the state of Cal and so is the court system.


28 posted on 09/13/2019 7:29:41 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: Russ

This is part of a democrat movement started by Brown 7 years ago to reduce prison population because they won’;t build new prisons. Brown lied us into two initiatives which released prisoners, some violent.


29 posted on 09/13/2019 7:30:55 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: txnativegop

There is the duty of the feds to ensure each state has a republican form of government.

I believe ballot harvesting is sufficient grounds to claim that the DPRKalifornia no longer has one.


30 posted on 09/13/2019 9:26:44 PM PDT by Farcesensitive
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To: txnativegop

It was called nullification. Andrew Jackson dealt with this when S. Carolina tried it. Trump needs to follow his example.


31 posted on 09/13/2019 9:42:42 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: Enlightened1

“How can a State ban Federal facilities?”

they can’t ...


32 posted on 09/13/2019 9:51:52 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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What federal facility? That's the real issue here, the way the detention facilities were created was a federal contract with a city which then bidded out the construction and operation to a private company. Then after cities were forbidden to sub-contract out such things to a private company, ICE did a bridge contract to continue operations for one year, with a longer term contract to come...

Does the state have the ability to forbid such contracts? Yeah, probably does. Should they? Much has been made of the 'living conditions' for those under detainment until the resolution of their case and deportation can take place. If activists had a care for those conditions, it would seem a great method would be to require specific improvements in conditions and minimum standards for a detention center.

Towards the end of the article: Servin said that while the new law was a significant victory, there was one other thing immigrants rights groups were concerned about. When several sheriffs’ departments canceled their contracts to house Ice detainees last year, instead of freeing the detainees, Ice moved many of them to prisons in Colorado and Hawaii.

One of the primary objections to these detention facilities is that they were so far away from the major cities and thus denied visitation without major effort. And now they'll have to get on a plane to Hawaii or drive to Colorado to visit, a much longer journey than the central valley.

Oh, and of course, the facilities won't really be closed - they're also used to comply with court orders regarding overcrowding of state prisoners in state facilities - that'll be just fine until 2028 or so. The state will just end up having to pay about 8 times more for each prisoner to make up for the budget shortfall from hosting ICE detainees.

Since no new facilities are currently on the drawing board in California, and only those who are facing long sentences after a career in crime are going to state prisons, it is guestimated that both of these 'shut down' private facilities will be at capacity by 2024 under current federal court orders.

Gov Gruesome will likely be out of office when the next governor will get to face the decision about commuting the sentences of murderers, rapists and child molesters to comply with overcrowding rules.

33 posted on 09/14/2019 5:21:41 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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