I call shenanigans.
I have a favorite youtuber, Townsend, formerly Townsend and Sons, that produce videos about recipes, cooking, and other aspect of life in the 1700s.
They did a great series on people who work at Williamsburg and portray people from the 1700s. One black woman portrayed a slave. You know who gave her grief? Yep, other blacks.
i give his woman lot of credit. she said that she did this so people wouldn’t forget their history and how far they have come!
There used to be at the Monticello “visitor center” which described in detail the lives of the slaves. Was interested to learn that they were able to hold “second jobs” for which they were paid, and that they were able to save that money, sometimes even enough to buy their freedom.
1. Why is it that the black slaves worked in the fields here, while this magnificent estate was built by white laborers?
2. Monticello was built almost 250 years ago. If I were to visit the regions of Africa where Jefferson’s slaves traced their roots, would I find any buildings as magnificent as this over there TODAY?
Need to remind them a black U S man sued an indentured black servant for ownership thereof and won in 1649. Thus began slavery.
“...one visitor complained earlier this summer that she “didn’t come to hear a lecture on how the white people treated slaves.”
What the tourist should have said was “Yeah Yeah hippie, we all saw “Roots”. Just get on with the tour”.
We were on a tour of a S. Carolina plantation last year. 80% was the field and slave cabins. It was clearly overdone towards slaves and the white guilt was dripping.
Funny point aside the modern padlocks on the slave cabins doors were “Master lock”
I made a snide I guess bad humor remark about it to my wife. She and a few who heard it laughed. Some gave me a death stare.
I think I’ll go to Hadrian’s Wall and complain about how my enslaved ancestors built that wall and there is not enough virtue signalling about how bad life was for those enslaved by the Romans.
It’s a fact. It should be included with the tour.
But it should also include a history of context—that it was “accepted” at the time, and even though we find it abhorrent today—it was part of life in antebellum southern plantations.
I’m sure my post here is going to make some people mad that’s okay. I’m going to give my observations on this based on 25 years of marriage in a white guy black wife marriage and having toured around the country to many of these plantations and other slavery oriented exhibits and tours. Typically when black people tour these destinations , they do it with a group on a bus not individual families, usually... I think that is mostly because they feel a little weird being by themselves and probably might be outnumbered by all the white people that do attend them t...that’s neither good nor bad it just is. That said, my annoyance - and it’s just as much as everybody else here - is the tour guides. Some of them are extremely good... for example recently here in Cincinnati we went into Ripley, Ohio which is on the Ohio River specifically on the Cincinnati side and we toured the John Rankin House as well as the John Parker House. Rankin was a pastor who was an abolitionist and John Parker was an escaped slave who was a half white half black man who of course back then was called a black man and he, through some course of events, became one of the transporters across the river for slaves who were escaping( historically he would be called a conductor of the Underground Railroad). Both men are worthy of their attention and some historical reading. I would consider both of them heroes. That said, the tour guide for The Rankin house... at least this particular man who is white ...did a good job, but some of his lecture was annoying because it had that added effect of telling us how bad we were as white people instead of just stating the facts. I found that to be very annoying and I really don’t need somebody, especially a white liberal, lecturing me. I would rather hear the facts and let myself digest it. OTOH, the gentleman who did the tour of the John Parker House was black and he was an incredible historian and talked in the way where he was painting history and I would never forget anything he said. He was a historian as well as an Entertainer. And he got history across to us and all of the bad parts about slaves and mistreatment and all of the horrible things they endured but I did not mind the way he told it because he did not lecture me or talk down to me or try to make me feel guilty he just told me the way it was. He was not annoying at all and he was not lecturing in any way. When we were leaving there was a bus showing up with about 50 black people from Louisville and it was a church group who was coming to take a tour of both places. Yes that seems anecdotal, however and all these years of taking tours, I have noticed a pattern and that’s what I have to go on. Ats time has marched on, and I do believe especially during the Obama Reign of Terror, tour guides, movie stars, comedians actors , actresses, all have been given permission to increase the laying into white folks.. and even while it is white liberals who are the ones doing most of that. It’s like THEY are off the hook and they have to make us the receivers of the tour feel that wrath and guilt. And they absolutely love having a captive audience so you have to sit there and take it. Facts are facts ...yes absolutely slavery was abhorrent and rapes and lynchings and whippings and chopping off of fingers, toes, feet, branding, family separations, treated like chattel, as well as snipping the Achilles heel if somebody tried to run if they were caught... that all did happen and we cannot deny that nor do I want to deny that. But there is a way of telling people the truth without being insulting and I frankly hate hearing it from white liberals. That’s just my two cents. I actually would much rather have a black person give me a tour and tell me all about it then a white liberal.
Guess we were lucky. We got the opportunity to visit Monticello a while back, booked one of the in-depth tours.
Had an excellent guide who gave a great tour, including information about the slaves there.
We got an informative tour, but not a guilt trip.
(Followed closely by Newark and Cumming's district in Baltimore...) Right?
My favorite plantation has always been Stagville in NC. The focus was always balanced between owners and slaves until the last few years when a shift occurred and less attention is paid to the white owners.
Case in point, at Christmas the theme has always been Christmas in the Big House, Christmas in the Quarters, but last year there was little in the big house in terms of decorations and no music, while all the attention was on the quarters. Disappointing, as we had always enjoyed both stories.
Renegade hens, clucking rebellion, sometimes tend to wander into the pastures of the mythical histories of our domestic enemies. George Washington was not mean to his slaves relative to African slave owners and others. He was far nicer to them.
They should be glad that their ancestors brought them here. Crossing the Atlantic back then was the way to the gravy jobs. Quichyerbichin, or we’ll “buyback” the 19th Amendment after this failed experiment runs its course.
Video shows violent family fight at Disneyland as stunned parkgoers try to intervene
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Nightmare in Toontown: Family fight in Disneyland ends in horror
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This mean it will take how long, more or less, to speak honestly about the democrats’ public housing projects?
So some stupid people go to a historical site and are offended when they encounter history
The plants didn’t just pop up without someone tending them.
My ancestors had a handful of slaves who had been passed down. GG-grandma said she was glad they were set free because they were like little helpless babies needing constant care. She also said they and the family ate out of the same bean pot.
I toured the Civil Rights Museum twenty years ago where they tried to make me feel bad for being white. I grew up poor so it didn’t take. Now I think blacks should be happy their ancestors got on the boat. Even Ali agreed.