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1 posted on 09/08/2019 3:04:40 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Or didn't give a 💩 about no steenkin' background checks in the first place?
2 posted on 09/08/2019 3:10:15 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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Mistakes? Bull more like duplicity!


3 posted on 09/08/2019 3:10:19 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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"In 2018, there were more than 26 million background checks conducted."

I find that figure a little hard to .... except.

4 posted on 09/08/2019 3:15:02 PM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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Maybe they had some help from the gun grabbers. Once the left saw how quickly the bumpstock ban was signed, they knew they had a winning recipe.
The left has been funding fake protesters and would fund mass murderers to install socialism.
The gun gran is happening under a Republican prez. This. Should. Be. A. Wake. Up. Call.


5 posted on 09/08/2019 3:21:24 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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Some of them, such as the Sandy Hook killer, also had guns provided by family members (who could pass background checks) or they bought them illegally. The Odessa shooter bought a “homemade” AK47 type weapon, assembled from parts by a man who just sold to anyone who knew about him and could pay his price.

Background checks are good, but there are many ways around them.

However, the keyword should be “crazy,” and children and adults who have been diagnosed with some disorder should certainly be on a watchlist, and so should their close family members. Too many good, innocent people have died at the hands of lunatics.

If they apply for a permit, go and interview them and their family members. The nutcase in Sandy Hook was being protected by his mother, although of course she was the one he killed first. Her (divorced) husband had tried to get treatment for the boy, but she refused. So if the killer’s father had been interviewed when his wife purchased guns, that may have given a different outcome.

Of course, the best thing would be mandatory hospitalization, something we used to have, but that was dropped in the 70s because of the leftist theory that the only sane people were the insane, because they were reacting to capitalism and rejecting US culture. Believe it or not, this was a theme, and it got everything from panhandling and vagrancy laws to potentially long-term mental hospital commitment overturned.

Naturally, the important thing in the US is to control who is in charge of this, sets the standards, and enforces it. Otherwise the Dems would declare that anybody who doesn’t vote Dem is certifiable...

So my feeling is that there are many other issues that need to be dealt with first.


6 posted on 09/08/2019 3:23:43 PM PDT by livius
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IIRC, one of those people who slipped through the cracks was the husband of celebrated anti-gun a tivist Gabby Gifford’s. How much nail time did he serve?


7 posted on 09/08/2019 3:34:47 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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The mass shooters were going to shoot their victims one way or the other—whether or not they got the firearms legally or not.

The guns are on the streets. They are not going anywhere. Even if we did stop selling these rifles, there are millions out there.

Therefore, if we focus on the “tools” alone, we will miss the fact that the user—so dedicated—will find a way to access the necessary tools to get the job done.


11 posted on 09/08/2019 4:07:50 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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The numbers reported show just how ridiculous the idea of universal background checks are. Right now there are 26 million searches per year against a list with perhaps 6000 people prohibited from owning a firearm due to mental illness.

And as we know, even with all those searches, the system missed some obviously mentally ill people. Like the guy who just went on a rampage in Texas who has been calling the FBI for years and rambling on about who knows what, or the crazy guy who murdered people in Aurora Colorado.

Instead of looking for a needle in a haystack, law enforcement efforts should be directed at the small number of people who actually are mentally ill, and likely to be violent, and who are trying to obtain any kind of weapon.

13 posted on 09/08/2019 5:32:52 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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16 posted on 09/08/2019 5:58:47 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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The Associated Press lies. Most of the mass murderers were on drugs. They were able to buy weapons by lying on the 4473 forms, because the police didn’t bust them for drugs.

Universal background checks won’t fix that. After both political parties attack the Constitution by passing universal background checks and/or a red flag putsch, lax policing will allow the drug addicts and dealers to continue murdering people.


19 posted on 09/08/2019 7:02:50 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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How about locking up people that try to buy guns who are truly prohibited persons. If you have a criminal record and try to buy, you should be arrested and charged appropriately.


23 posted on 09/08/2019 8:24:11 PM PDT by gunnut
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