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Public health experts denounced fentanyl as the third wave of the opioid crisis — after prescription pills and heroin — but Congress and the Obama administration were slow to act.


Well written article exposing the truth and printed in of all places the Los Angeles Times.

1 posted on 09/08/2019 11:17:31 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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Yet another reason to boycott Communist China and have a trade embargo slapped on that filthy country.

As they will just ship the shit to Mexico and have it smuggled across the border, as they lost their USPS conduit.

Inspect everything coming in from Communist China. If it takes months to years of customs inspections, so be it. The stuff just rots on the docks.


2 posted on 09/08/2019 11:23:32 AM PDT by Starcitizen (American. No hypenation necessary. Send the H1B and H4EAD slime home. American jobs for Americans)
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Not made in Mexico.
Made in China and assembled in Mexico.

China should know better than to start an Opium War with the US.
Inspect everything from China, and inspect and seize Chinese shipments to Mexico on the high seas until they stop.


3 posted on 09/08/2019 11:31:55 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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Innocent Americans are being targeted by the these drug dealers of death.


4 posted on 09/08/2019 11:34:54 AM PDT by Meatspace
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Made in Mexico? Unlikely.

Made in China. Shipped through Mexico because of our infamously uncontrolled border controlled by trafficking cartels.


6 posted on 09/08/2019 11:40:25 AM PDT by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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“...Today, officials say the majority is smuggled from Mexico,..”

And yet these filthy politicians and lawyers are suing legitimate pain killer manufacturers out of business and making doctors afraid to prescribe for the suffering.


8 posted on 09/08/2019 11:46:05 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus mane)
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Aren’t tariffs were supposed to cure all problems with imports?


9 posted on 09/08/2019 11:46:15 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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”several months earlier a friend gave.....”

Sorry to sound unsympathetic, no not unsympathetic just realistic and yes, adult, since when do we take unknown drugs of any kind because a so-called friend gives us one?

Yes, I’ve been in situations when an onset of a massive headache comes on and I’m unable to leave a meeting, presentation, etc. where I ask if someone I know has an aspirin to lend me but take something unknown because someone unsolicited offers it to me, not on your life! I’m adult enough to realize that anyone offering me drugs, does not have my best interests at heart.

Why can’t these parents help their kids realize this much earlier than when they are in such a situation? End of story

12 posted on 09/08/2019 11:51:11 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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Will the Left demand that the LA Times remove this “racist” article for suggesting bad things can come across the border? After all, if you want border barriers raised to reduce things like deadly drugs, human trafficking, violent gang activity, etc. you are a racist, xenophobe, etc.


13 posted on 09/08/2019 11:52:19 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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Incomplete article. No follow up on the older brother Parker.


18 posted on 09/08/2019 12:01:29 PM PDT by upchuck (If democrats would stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90% ~ h/t Mr K.)
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If you believe a government can stomp out recreational drugs you imply a government can stomp out civilian possession of guns.

Recreation drug “control” is doomed to failure.

Gun “control” is doomed to failure.

If you advocate drug “treatment” you imply drug experimentation isn’t likely to lead to lifelong addiction.

Addiction is based on body chemistry. It’s not something one can expect to beat often.


26 posted on 09/08/2019 12:26:43 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Well written for a reporter, but a lot of the language is strange. No one is more plugged in than I am on this issue. I live in Intractable Pain and have for 30+ yrs. When CDC Director Robert Redfield declared war on Pain Patients because his 37 yr old son shot heroin ‘laced’ and that is the Correct word with Fentanyl and Ketamine in his veins and OD’d didn’t die, had charges pending in MD for drug possession, and Addiction Shrink Andrew Kolodny who owns Suboxone clinics along with the PROP committee. LIED out their butts about the number of OD’s.

Three months before we were Forced Tapered they hit our Veterans. Many have opted for suicide and many died of strokes and heart attacks. Same with civilian population. Easy to hide the Vets suicides as PSTD heart attacks as progression of their diseased. Civilian suicides are harder to hide. But the same goes for our strokes and heart attacks. I’ve had BP shoot up to 200/110. That is Heart range. Hospitals refuse to treat us, doctors to scared to write scripts now won’t stand up for us.

They purposefully muddled the language, calling both Illicit and Legal prescriptions Opioids, when Prescriptions were always called Narcotic Pain Meds. And doctors knew the dangers of OTC drugs. Tylenol is 10 days liver damage is high. Rest will thin the blood and cause ulcers. Toradol and Mobic are prescription only because they destroy GI tracts and thin blood.


28 posted on 09/08/2019 12:39:52 PM PDT by GailA (Intractable Pain, a Subset of Chronic pain Last a Life TIME at Level 10.)
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The deep state can stop the importation of these drugs at will. But look how well drugs worked to addle an entire generation.

Tough guys at the DEA are brave to toss a flash bang in an infant’s crib. They’ll never perform their ostensive duties. Their mission is tyranny. Who would be surprised to learn they are in league with China and Mexico?

29 posted on 09/08/2019 12:40:39 PM PDT by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under fifty.)
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As for China, I don’t care what we do to uncover fentanyl in shipments. If you get their attention, they’ll stop it.

As for Mexico, the article writes about the depravity of the Mexicans, even seemingly ordinary ones that would be stunning to folks not already familiar with third world values.

As for “Innocent Victim” addicts - nothing we do will save them from themselves, for the most part. On one hand they have an endless supply of drugs available, on the other hand they have rehab bureaucrats who simply harvest whatever monies they can, knowing full well they aren’t helping addicts, nor caring if they do. Probably not much difference in depravity between the Mexican suppliers and the rehab industry - both have a vested interest in addicts being addicts to line their pockets.

Fentanyl is so potent and the product is so inconsistent in dosage that every addict is going to eventually OD - and many of those will die.

There is nothing we as a society will do that will be effective combating this scourge. Eventually we’ll have to throw addicts in jail and hope for the best - if we don’t they’ll die on the streets. It hasn’t gotten bad enough to do that yet, but it will.


46 posted on 09/08/2019 1:53:43 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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The distressing thing, to me, is how this trade in illicit fentanyl and fentanyl abuse is making it so much more difficult to obtain prescriptions for fentanyl and opioid pain relievers for those patients who have a legitimate need. I took fentanyl in the form of a transdermal patch four years ago to help control chronic and severe nerve pain associated with my cervical spinal stenosis and facet joint pain. Severe, chronic pain can drive a person to thoughts of suicide to escape the unrelenting pain, when there is no hope of relief. Fentanyl saved my life by controlling that pain until a surgical solution could be implemented. It angers me to read about suicides of patients with legitimate needs who have been denied pain-relieving drugs by doctors under threat from well-meaning but misguided regulators who act as if the legal drug itself is evil.


47 posted on 09/08/2019 2:06:55 PM PDT by SteveS52
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“exposing the truth”?

More like exposing the half truth because an outlet like LA times will never admit that it’s the U.S. government particularily politicians and police state agencies that are to blame.

HSBC is responsible for the money laundering and they work closely with DOJ as well as cartels. HSBC gets fined, but the CEOs dont go to prison. Fentanyl is easy to conceal so a lot can get through. And if you don’t think that the seized drugs aren’t recycled via banks and middleman, you’re hopelessly naive or you get a pension from the police state.

DEA. Pump and dump of oxycodone in 2012-2017 to help fuel opioid crisis.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/oct/05/opioid-production-us-epidemic-drug-enforcement-administration

HSBC money laundering for US gov.
https://tragedyandhope.com/hsbc-whistleblower-john-cruz/

HSBCThe U.S. is just doing an opioid war against the people. LA times will never tell you that.


48 posted on 09/08/2019 2:06:56 PM PDT by grumpygresh
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Pushers should be shot upon conviction.

Users should be put in (newly built) "drug asylums" for rehab and kept in there until "clean". If they get full, build some more.

These stupid users really don't deserve it, but they should be allowed a second chance at a drug-free life if and when they are"cured" and then released. But they get no "third" chance. They get the same treatment as the pusher if they take up the habit again. They don't get another chance at rehab.

This is ultimately deadly for everybody and is nothing to fool around with. It is already destroying millions of individuals and their families. Huge swaths of cities and communities have become crime infested wastelands and social hazards. If it keeps up it will destroy our entire country. Those of us not pushers and users can't take the risk of ultimate destruction and be "compassionate" to continue to facilitate the wicked greed and destructive habits of those who are. This is ultimately life and death for all of us. Those ruined and dying should be "them", not us. They are the ones responsible for this disaster, not us.

Oh, and consider it an "act of war" if other countries are complicit in providing the drugs or enabling the trafficking of these poisons in our struggle for survival. It is no different than if they were invading us and murdering us by the millions for their own nefarious purposes because that is the ultimate result.

55 posted on 09/08/2019 5:10:11 PM PDT by Gritty (The Left will always hate you, so stop caring about their lies. - Kurt Schlichter)
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