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Colorado Doctor Sounds Alarm on Marijuana Legalization High hopes dashed
freebeacon ^ | SEPTEMBER 6, 2019 | Charles Fain Lehman

Posted on 09/07/2019 4:37:12 AM PDT by MarvinStinson

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To: exDemMom

Marijuana turns people into insufferable bores. They drone oon and on about the wonders of their addiction and why you too should become a narced-out stoner.


141 posted on 09/07/2019 9:35:43 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: MarvinStinson

“”The grand experiment is not going so well.”

Of course!

They would be better off in prison.

/s


142 posted on 09/07/2019 9:45:58 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: exDemMom

“Legalizing an activity causes the number of people engaging in that activity to skyrocket.”

Not really.

Weed has been ubiquitous for at least 30 years. In every county in America.

Those who want to smoke it, will. And have.

There’s no widespread increase in use. Not in kids and not in adults.


143 posted on 09/07/2019 9:50:42 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: BeauBo

“THC will push borderline psychotics into full blown psychosis (hallucinations, break with reality). In fact, anyone will hallucinate if they take a high enough dose of THC - it is just a matter of the individual’s tolerance.”

Absolutely true.

Those who are borderline psychotics should never smoke weed. Or, drink whiskey for that matter.


144 posted on 09/07/2019 9:54:12 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: BeauBo
Thanks for the link! Note that it says, "Extrapolation from the animal evidence suggests that the lethal human dose of THC is at least as high as, and probably higher than, that observed in the monkey." That is, 130 mg/kg - more than 4 times as high as your 30 mg/kg.

It's also worth noting from the link that "there have been no reported cases of death attributable to cannabis in the world medical literature (Blum, 1984; Nahas, 1984)."

145 posted on 09/07/2019 9:57:10 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Manly Warrior
At what point do we simply say “smoking/vaping inhaling such stuff intentionally is stoopid and impacts society as a whole

At what point do we simply say “those self-harms, like the ones from alcohol, tobacco, and bacon double cheeseburgers, are not the proper objects of government force - the Land of the Free is not a nanny state"?

146 posted on 09/07/2019 10:00:42 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Manly Warrior
prevent their poor choices from affecting me and mine.

Almost everything anyone does "affects" someone else; the proper test for government force is the narrower "violation of rights" (cf. the Declaration of Independence), which pot sale and use are not.

147 posted on 09/07/2019 10:04:10 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: jmacusa

I never said alcohol had any benefits. I said alcohol was damaging enough and when you put weed on top of alcohol it’s a disaster. Perhaps you misread my statement?


148 posted on 09/07/2019 10:05:20 AM PDT by lilypad
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To: SaxxonWoods
Tobacco, pot and alcohol should all be illegal, period.

They are all too dangerous.

At least you're consistent. But aren't there a great many other things comparably dangerous? Cars? Firearms? Your position appears to be the opposite of limited-government conservatism.

149 posted on 09/07/2019 10:08:18 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: lilypad
I will bet she does know about fetal alcohol syndrome, now throw weed on top of it....

Why not take alcohol off the pile by banning it?

150 posted on 09/07/2019 10:09:16 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: MarvinStinson

“Patients routinely use a gram a day, five grams a day,” she said.”

When I use it a microdose (1/10 gram per day) suffices.


151 posted on 09/07/2019 10:09:24 AM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: SanchoP
I have no clue what a millier is.

I think it's a thousand "ers".

152 posted on 09/07/2019 10:15:45 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( "The Owl" eats RATs for breakfast!)
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To: Beagle8U

CBD is verboten if you are on blood thinners, especially warfarin, and Xarelto. It magnifies their effects, meaning uncontrolled bleeding


153 posted on 09/07/2019 10:35:34 AM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: thoughtomator

“If I dug deeper what do you think the odds she believes that medical concerns compel the banning of firearms? 90%? Higher?”

Since she is a conservative (”spoke...at the right-leaning Hudson Institute”), I’d guess 10% or less.

I think legalizing pot is stupid. I’m a conservative who carries. I don’t see any conflict.


154 posted on 09/07/2019 10:52:43 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: thoughtomator

“There doesn’t seem to be any such thing as board certification in “cannabis science and medicine”.”

Maybe not an AMA board certification, but:

https://www.analyticalcannabis.com/articles/higher-education-the-top-cannabis-science-courses-in-the-us-and-canada-311606


155 posted on 09/07/2019 10:55:29 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: thoughtomator

“This appears to be driven by pretend-Christians in open defiance of the very first commands given by God to mankind in Genesis 1:26-28.”

“Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; 30 and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food”; and it was so.”

You live in the Garden of Eden? Or is that only when you are stoned? Tumbleweeds have seeds. Go eat.


156 posted on 09/07/2019 11:03:24 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: MarvinStinson
Randall pointed to other commonly cited effects of legalization, including a historic increase in homelessness

An issue on which her medical credentials have no bearing. This was not a medical statement but simple axe-grinding. Shame on her.

(And by the by, it's probable that the increase was due to pot-seeking relocation from other states, rather than pot causing homelessness.)

157 posted on 09/07/2019 11:24:56 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Your response if stupid. Of course actions have consequences, some actions are known to have worse or higher probability of bad outcomes. Painting my window frames is not likely to harm anyone. smoking drugs that alter ones mind state is however and doing other dangerous things ( driving, painting your window frames) increases risk to others. If you can’t find waldo in this equation, you may not ought be on your own.

But hey, we all set our own standards on FR...


158 posted on 09/07/2019 11:26:16 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: MarvinStinson
spoke alongside former White House drug czar John Walters at the right-leaning Hudson Institute on Friday, said the public is being misled

John "Pot is 30 times stronger" Walters? The irony is priceless.

159 posted on 09/07/2019 11:27:37 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Manly Warrior
prevent their poor choices from affecting me and mine.

Almost everything anyone does "affects" someone else; the proper test for government force is the narrower "violation of rights" (cf. the Declaration of Independence), which pot sale and use are not.

some actions are known to have worse or higher probability of bad outcomes.

Already a narrower standard than your previous "affects".

Painting my window frames is not likely to harm anyone. smoking drugs that alter ones mind state is however and doing other dangerous things ( driving, painting your window frames) increases risk to others.

The danger to others of the pot+driving combo is no more an argument for banning pot than it is for banning cars. And alcohol+driving is equally dangerous - do you therefore support banning that drug? I don't; history tells me that this cure was worse than the disease.

160 posted on 09/07/2019 11:34:05 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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