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Coast Guard: 25 bodies found after California boat fire
Associated Press KGET ^ | Sep 2, 2019 / 10:46 PM PDT | : STEFANIE DAZIO, Associated Press

Posted on 09/03/2019 8:08:34 AM PDT by sheana

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To: sheana
This is what I heard yesterday:

"Audio of a mayday call reveals that the dispatcher made several references to the passengers being “locked” inside the boat, with no means of escape from the flames."

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/mayday-audio-raises-questions-circumstances-135618364.html

What part of that is a misperception?

41 posted on 09/03/2019 9:36:39 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: sheana

it is possible that the emergency escape hatch was locked. Some 911 audio seems to support this.


42 posted on 09/03/2019 9:41:04 AM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: pfflier

The Conception had no doors to lock! Open boat.
Lemme see.....3:30-4:00 am. Sleepy, extremely distressed crew member talking on a muffled radio.....didn’t stop to take the time to say....no, no doors to lock but they can’t get out because the fire is blocking their exit.


43 posted on 09/03/2019 9:43:21 AM PDT by sheana
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To: calljack

According to my Captain friends who have been on board the Conception....the emergency hatch, above a bunk in the sleeping quarters, was simply covered with a piece of plywood. Just push. The people who rescued the crew members said the crew told them the exits were blocked by fire.


44 posted on 09/03/2019 9:45:14 AM PDT by sheana
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To: jerod

That’s a 75 foot boat. Could easily hold more people than that.


45 posted on 09/03/2019 9:48:24 AM PDT by sheana
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To: faucetman
1. 20 yards from shore
2. Can divers swim?

A lot of the shoreline is sheer cliff.

46 posted on 09/03/2019 9:51:05 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: jerod

Whatever it was it took the two top cabins off with probably explosions. The initial reports were that the crew slept on top and were awake at the time. Maybe they were getting ready for an early morning dive and possibly preparing breakfast for the passengers and something went wrong in the galley.


47 posted on 09/03/2019 9:52:09 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: sheana
Perhaps those in the bunk area were ALREADY UNCONSCIOUS from a propane gas leak seeping below deck. Hence, any attempts at escaping were impossible so they drowned while unconscious.

Just a theory. I am reading that the COOK, Mikey Kohls is one of those missing. This would support the theory that a propane leak, then FLASH FIRE and explosion immediately took the life of the COOK. The ONLY crew member NOT to survive, I believe.

48 posted on 09/03/2019 9:53:25 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: sheana
Narrow passageways, dense berthing spaces discussion of blocked, if not locked exits etc etc.

Sounds like the crew had time to get on a boat but didn't have time to help the passengers?

Unfortunately this sounds bad in any light.

49 posted on 09/03/2019 10:01:20 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: pfflier

The difference between Locked and Blocked is a “B”. Push the mic transmit button a microsecond after speaking and you get a partial transmission. Other noise or misperception creates the same affect.


50 posted on 09/03/2019 10:01:26 AM PDT by Cold Heart (.)
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To: pfflier
Audio of a mayday call reveals that the dispatcher made several references to the passengers being “locked” inside the boat, with no means of escape from the flames." https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/mayday-audio-raises-questions-circumstances-135618364.html What part of that is a misperception?

Number 1 - dispatchers don’t know jack about dive boats and their design. The panicked crewman is in a state of panic and says all manner of ridiculous things. Number 2 - I’ve been on the Conception and her sister boats - there are no locks on any doors except the four staterooms in the berthing area and the heads.

Being a multi day trip, it would be more likely that the emergency exits were blocked with gear bags, camera equipment, scooters, sleeping bags, coolers full of beer etc. No one is locked in anywhere on dive boats

51 posted on 09/03/2019 10:07:10 AM PDT by atc23
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Ive worked as a cook on southern California dive boats. Usually, the cook is the only crewmember to use the below deck bunk - the worst, narrowest one I might add. Filled with bags of candy and licorice whips and crap - it’s a spartan existence but a hella fun

The galley is all electric. Propane is not fit as a flammable gas to carry aboard a commercial vessel like this. Coast Guard regs

52 posted on 09/03/2019 10:13:30 AM PDT by atc23
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To: sheana

No way of knowing if this was true or not, but a poster on Instagram said he knew and has talked to one of the crew members.

The crew member told him they tried to save the passengers but couldn’t, and that crew members had loved ones on board they couldn’t save either.


53 posted on 09/03/2019 10:15:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: jerod

34 passengers is quite comfortable on the Conception. It’s bigger that it looks in the pic. It’s Coast Guard rated to carry 46 but 34 is easier on crew and passengers. It’s plenty big enough


54 posted on 09/03/2019 10:17:06 AM PDT by atc23
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To: atc23

Best explanation so far, from an old sixpac skipper.


55 posted on 09/03/2019 10:24:05 AM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: DoughtyOne
Lithium fire is what I’m hearing from insiders. Charging station blew up with multiple large LIPO batteries on the charge getting set for the dive day. The charging station is in the galley- aft.

I sincerely hope the emergency exits weren’t blocked with dive gear, coolers, etc. Frequent pet peeve of mine on dive boats in So California

56 posted on 09/03/2019 10:24:58 AM PDT by atc23
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To: calljack

From what I have read, it was a small escape hatch, meaning that it would have taken a long time to get 30+ people through it even if it was unlocked. Fires move much faster than we can imagine, especially with things like oxygen on board, and these poor people never had a chance.

It seems to me that the crew didn’t do enough, and certainly the captain (who had worked for them for a long time) seems not to have been very prepared, but again, as somebody else says, we don’t know all the facts yet.


57 posted on 09/03/2019 10:26:45 AM PDT by livius
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To: atc23

Kind of depends on the explosion too.

Could have been pretty destructive from the get go.

Was the boat almost totally destroyed by the explosion?


58 posted on 09/03/2019 10:31:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: atc23
Interesting info, thanks. If cook was in bunk area, it's very telling that even he could not escape. He would know how, better than anyone aboard.

Something very quick happened, such as a flash fire. Question is, what could have caused that?

Perhaps something set the bunk stairwell ablaze, but there's another plywood escape hatch in bunk area. Something quick and debilitating happened.

59 posted on 09/03/2019 10:40:58 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: DoughtyOne

That was in the news.


60 posted on 09/03/2019 10:54:12 AM PDT by sheana
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