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U.S. Farmers May Be Angrier, But Their Trump Love Is Growing
Yahoo News ^ | Aug 29, 2019 | Isis Almeida

Posted on 08/29/2019 7:04:32 AM PDT by 11th_VA

Edited on 08/29/2019 10:03:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: 2020election; agriculture; berniesanders; boycotts; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; election2020; energy; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; hydrocarbons; maga; mediawingofthednc; opec; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; rural; sanctions; smearmachine; tariffs; trade; trump2020; trumptrade; vermont
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1 posted on 08/29/2019 7:04:32 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

The insanity of the Dems is Trump’s greatest asset.


2 posted on 08/29/2019 7:06:42 AM PDT by babble-on ("moderation is best in all things" - Hesiod)
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To: 11th_VA

‘Farmers’ are part of a much greater ag economy. Things like processed food, ag machinery, plant and animal hybridization and research are all hurt by unfair trade practices around the world. Every good farmer is a long-term thinker.


3 posted on 08/29/2019 7:11:16 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: 11th_VA

The “Trump tax cut” increased our taxes because we live in a state that taxes the hell out of us and we can now only deduct $10,000 of this. We are paying tax on money we pay in taxes. But we still love him. This “trade war” is something that was needed for the good of the country and farmers understand this better than most.


4 posted on 08/29/2019 7:14:51 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: 11th_VA

” On one hand, farmers have never been this critical of the Trump administration and the trade war with China”

Any American farmer that needs a communist country to stay afloat can go f*ck a horse.


5 posted on 08/29/2019 7:22:26 AM PDT by VanDeKoik ( In heap big peace pipe)
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To: 11th_VA

Successful farming relies on cheap, abundant sources of energy, and Trump has done more on that score than any President I can recall.


6 posted on 08/29/2019 7:24:59 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: 11th_VA

The alternative is a future where Marxist gangs come to steal their food.


7 posted on 08/29/2019 7:25:05 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: 11th_VA

Farmers have always been a conservative bunch. Both my neighbors are farmers, and while we don’t discuss politics I would be amazed if both of them weren’t Trump voters in 2016. But both are also hurting with the decline in corn and soybean prices. The likelihood of them voting Democrat is probably near zero. But the chance of them just staying home is another thing.


8 posted on 08/29/2019 7:32:24 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 11th_VA

The entire Ethanol scam was nothing but a welfare program for farmers. It’s past time to end it, and they know it.
There are plenty of legit markets for their corn.


9 posted on 08/29/2019 7:34:52 AM PDT by Fireone (Build the gallows first, then the wall!)
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To: 11th_VA

I am an American farmer and I can tell you that yes the trade war has hurt our markets tremendously. The Market Facilitation payments have helped. But we would rather have fair trade and a free market. That being said we have not had fair trade with the Chinese in over 30 years. They constantly cheat and manipulate the markets to their favor while dumping tons of cheap crap on the US built with their near slave labor. Trump is the first president that has actually had the b@ll$ to stand up the the Chinese. He will still get about 80% of the farmers vote and I think he should really double down on the Chinese and bring back some USA manufacturing.


10 posted on 08/29/2019 7:35:22 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: jjotto

The American Farmer is part of who we are and is essential. I hate when the Farmer gets screwed by FedGov and other parts of society. The last Kenyan Administration acted like we could just import food and his idiot sheep acted like food grows in supermarkets. Way to much food is imported especially from China.


11 posted on 08/29/2019 7:35:57 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: BobinIL
I am an American farmer and I can tell you that yes the trade war has hurt our markets tremendously. The Market Facilitation payments have helped. But we would rather have fair trade and a free market. That being said we have not had fair trade with the Chinese in over 30 years. They constantly cheat and manipulate the markets to their favor while dumping tons of cheap crap on the US built with their near slave labor. Trump is the first president that has actually had the b@ll$ to stand up the the Chinese. He will still get about 80% of the farmers vote and I think he should really double down on the Chinese and bring back some USA manufacturing.

Please define "tremendously". I'm not trying to be argumentive, I'm just trying to reconcile that word with:

https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/international-markets-us-trade/us-agricultural-trade/outlook-for-us-agricultural-trade/

As a one year % decrease, for my business, I might take that as a yellow flag and maybe a need to work a bit harder or more effectively, etc., but I'd certainly not lose sleep over it. Over a several year trend, well, that'd be a different matter.

Also, how much of the decrease is due to the Swine Fever? How much is due to a weak global economy aside from trade disputes?

It would seem many Ag imports are up. Is there opportunity there? (Almost every problem is also an opportunity.)

I'll be interested in your reply. No rush, if your are busy. Thanks!

12 posted on 08/29/2019 8:03:10 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: shanover

The problem for the American Farmer is BigAG...Tyson, ADM, Cargill


13 posted on 08/29/2019 8:42:58 AM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: kaktuskid

Import more food and end up with a lot more cancer. Other countries don’t care if they have to use triple the amount of spray to keep the crops looking good for sale.


14 posted on 08/29/2019 9:18:34 AM PDT by oldasrocks (Heavily Medicated for your Protection.)
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To: jjotto

Are they Americans first?

If so, then they can channel their inner Founding Fathers and do the lives, fortunes, and sacred honor thing.

And a note to farmers: You’re not the only folks taking it in the shorts. Suck it up.


15 posted on 08/29/2019 9:21:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds)
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To: 11th_VA

The left sees farmers as angry white men. What a bunch of bigots.


16 posted on 08/29/2019 2:11:04 PM PDT by vpintheak (Stop making stupid people famous!)
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The left sees farmers as angry white men. What a bunch of bigots.

They can't even comprehend that female farmers like me, and minority farmers like some of the other folks around me, even exist. We're just non-entities to them.
17 posted on 08/29/2019 6:16:51 PM PDT by Ellendra (A single lie on our side does more damage than a thousand lies on their side.)
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To: Ellendra

Indeed!


18 posted on 08/29/2019 7:02:16 PM PDT by vpintheak (Stop making stupid people famous!)
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To: Fireone
The entire Ethanol scam was nothing but a welfare program for farmers. It’s past time to end it, and they know it. There are plenty of legit markets for their corn.
Trump just signed off on bumping gas up to 15% Ethanol , just in case Ethanol hasn't ruined all of your mowers, weed trimmers, chain saws, etc. yet.
19 posted on 08/31/2019 6:44:50 PM PDT by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (After Trump-then what?)
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