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To: Ikeon

I didn’t say the guy who was shot acted appropriately, but it is clear that the shooter provoked the altercation by yelling at a woman and her children. The law is pretty clear that, while verbal provocation does not justify the use of force, you cannot claim self defense when using force to defend yourself from an attack you verbally provoked, either. As you suggested, both men committed crimes here.

More to the point, I’ve watched that video several times, and there is no evidence in that video that the shooter was facing any threat that justified the use of deadly force. Unless the victim said something that constituted a deadly threat (and it doesn’t sound like there was any evidence that he did), the shooter was plainly guilty of some level of criminal homicide.

I think it requires a rather twisted moral compass to view this as a “win/win.” Shoving someone who is yelling at your kids and their mother may be wrong, but hardly warrants death.


67 posted on 08/26/2019 7:06:05 AM PDT by The Pack Knight
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To: The Pack Knight

I agree the shooting wasn’t justified. , its a win/ win because the shooter and the victum were both far less than ideal citizens. And society no longer has to fear either one.


81 posted on 08/26/2019 9:18:59 AM PDT by Ikeon (You can't be nice to them, you can't shoot them, you cant fix them- stupid is just stupid)
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