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US says 'no free trade deal with UK unless digital tax scrapped'
News.sky.com ^ | 3 August 2019

Posted on 08/23/2019 8:32:46 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

The US will not negotiate a free trade deal with the UK unless a new digital services tax is dropped, according to a newspaper report.

The measure, which was proposed in 2018 by then chancellor Philip Hammond in response to fears that technology giants were not paying their fair share of tax, is due to come into effect in April next year.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: brexit
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1 posted on 08/23/2019 8:32:46 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Who gets to tax Google and Facebook ? That's the kernel of a highly technical debate going on between 130 countries via the Paris-based Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development.
2 posted on 08/23/2019 8:36:01 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I’d prefer the tax. Make Google feel a bit of pain...


3 posted on 08/23/2019 8:36:08 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I know they’re talking about taxes on US companies, but who are we to tell the UK what they can tax and what they can’t?


4 posted on 08/23/2019 8:36:58 PM PDT by be-baw
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To: be-baw

[I know they’re talking about taxes on US companies, but who are we to tell the UK what they can tax and what they can’t?]


They already pay income tax. The UK wants to slap on a revenue tax as well. In retaliation, we may have to look at imposing a revenue tax on British firms doing business stateside.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-43566751
[Google will pay nearly £50m in tax to the Treasury this year. The technology giant’s annual accounts show that the company will pay corporation taxes of £49.3m on UK profits of £202.4m]


5 posted on 08/23/2019 8:41:19 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
French President Emmanuel Macron, who will defend a global tax on tech giants at this weekend’s G7 meeting, on Wednesday criticised a “crazy” system that gives firms a “permanent tax haven status”.
6 posted on 08/23/2019 8:43:12 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Macron’s basically saying he wants whatever he wants, same as the UK tax authorities. Traditionally, corporations have paid most of their taxes in their home countries. Macron probably foresees a world in which Google pays more taxes in France than in the US. That will work for as long as the US doesn’t retaliate against French companies.


7 posted on 08/23/2019 8:48:41 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I hope this is not true. They have the right to charge for advertising and selling advertising data. I can’t believe that those companies would have pull in this administration.


8 posted on 08/23/2019 8:57:07 PM PDT by poinq
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Work with Boris Johnson. We need to keep him in the PM job to work with Trump. They will meet for the first time in a few hours at the G 7 meeting.


9 posted on 08/23/2019 9:02:35 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: be-baw

>”I know they’re talking about taxes on US companies, but who are we to tell the UK what they can tax and what they can’t?”

Because POTUS is negotiating the deal and is setting the terms. He is offering them control of markets into Europe and he is letting them know their liberal dingbats won’t be doing whatever the hell they want to do in the new trade deal.


10 posted on 08/23/2019 9:13:44 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: poinq

[I hope this is not true. They have the right to charge for advertising and selling advertising data. I can’t believe that those companies would have pull in this administration.]


Google already pays income taxes on UK profits. The UK wants to tack on a special sales tax. Would it be OK to charge a special sales tax on British companies that sell in the US on top of the income taxes they already pay?

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-43566751


11 posted on 08/23/2019 9:16:00 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: be-baw

We’re certainly free to tell them who we will deal with and on what terms. Then can do as they wish.


12 posted on 08/23/2019 9:24:49 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: bigbob

“We’re certainly free to tell them who we will deal with and on what terms.”

True. I just don’t understand why we care.


13 posted on 08/23/2019 9:27:38 PM PDT by be-baw
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Making deals: know where the other side is weak and where it is strong.. and apply the pressure where they feel it the most.. and don’t quibble.


14 posted on 08/23/2019 9:56:42 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: be-baw
...I know they’re talking about taxes on US companies, but who are we to tell the UK what they can tax and what they can’t?...

We aren't telling them they can't tax US companies -- we are telling them that if they want a free trade agreement with the US they can't impose this kind of tax.

They are perfectly free to reject that condition and live without a free trade agreement. OTOH a free trade agreement may be very advantageous to them with Brexit coming up and they might want to negotiate.

15 posted on 08/23/2019 10:36:10 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: bigbob

When you tax something, you control it.

POTUS said two months back that if anyone will tax the Cocky Tech Lords it will be his administration that does so.

His DOJ also announced the FTC and the FCC opened antitrust investigations into Fakebook and the others.

These tech companies are now in the cross-hairs of the Trump movement. If they are taxed by liberal Euro-weenies, they may end up in debt and need to sell their assets to Juncker, Macron and that pile of stinking leadership and PRC China’s quest for world colonization.

No way will the EU be allowed to take over the US social media which was originally funded by DARPA and CIA elements (for developing spy tools).

As far as I am concerned, there are coming replacements for Suckerberg’s Life Log, Dorsey’s shadow banning censors, the bastards behind Sundar Pichai. And Satya Nadella better watch his step and understand that globalist cliques are not where it’s at which is a road to Juncker’s crumbling empire.

I ditched Chrome and Edge, I am totally on BRAVE now and it’s much, much better.

I listened to an hour in the background of Sebastian Gorka’s new America First news network and it was excellent. I was able to work at the keyboard while listening to Gorka and his guests Sara Carter, John Solomon and was comforted to know there are very competent people keeping tabs of the goings-on in the world and keeping me informed with minimal distraction.

I was one of the first people in 1996 to listen to Tony Snow’s Fox News Sunday and ask an online question of his guest Dick Armey. I predicted then that Fox News would become number one in cable news and I was correct only now Fox News is going in the crapper.

Why mention all this? Because time and time again we see conservatives bounce back after lefty a-holes try to grab power. Today it’s the FB-Goog-Twit nexus. They will be gone after a few more seasons because trustworthy replacements are on the way.

Take it to your own personal bank: ***The Times They Are A-Changin’***


16 posted on 08/23/2019 10:52:23 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Basically what it is, as I understand it, is that Europe, by taxing US companies, hope to cause the tech companies to have to start charging for their services so that US customers will pay European taxes surreptitiously.


17 posted on 08/23/2019 11:15:47 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
The importance of reading the full article.
The US will not negotiate a free trade deal with the UK unless a new digital services tax is dropped, according to a newspaper report.
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The Telegraph says that Liam Fox was among those warned about the digital tax by senior US politicians last month, while he was international trade secretary.

Ron Wyden, the most senior Democrat on the Senate finance committee, was reported to have told Mr Fox: "There should not be any negotiations on a trade deal as long as a digital services tax is being pursued by Britain."


18 posted on 08/23/2019 11:47:19 PM PDT by Dahoser
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To: be-baw

They want a fair, free trade deal, yet they want to penalize US tech companies with an additional tax so they can protect and promote UK and EU competitors with their government’s assistance. How, exactly is that fair?

Or, put another way and using another product, this is as if they said, “We want a fair and free trade deal, but we’re going to impose a new special and specific tax on any Ford, Chevy or Chrysler that you try to sell here! And don’t you dare tax our Rovers, MGs or Austins!!!!!!”


19 posted on 08/23/2019 11:47:48 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Dahoser

Yes, but in this case he’s right.


20 posted on 08/23/2019 11:48:18 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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