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UPDATE 1-Germany sells new 30-year bond with negative yield, a first
Reuters ^ | Aug 21, 2019 | Dhara Ranasinghe, Michelle Martin

Posted on 08/21/2019 7:05:04 AM PDT by Leaning Right

LONDON/BERLIN Aug 21 (Reuters) - Germany sold 30-year bonds with a negative yield for the first time at an auction on Wednesday, a milestone for a fixed-income market where the entire curve now yields less than zero.

The euro zone’s benchmark bond issuer sold 824 million euros of the new long-dated bonds against a target of 2 billion euros, with an average yield of -0.11%. The coupon on the bond was set at 0% earlier this week.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: bonds
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The article explains why investors might want to buy a bond with a negative yield. It didn’t make any sense to me. But then again, I don’t have a PhD in Economics.
1 posted on 08/21/2019 7:05:04 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: Leaning Right

i believe the purchaser can right off the fees to the general public by taking a tax deduction...


2 posted on 08/21/2019 7:06:36 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: teeman8r

oops write.

left brain- left brain.


3 posted on 08/21/2019 7:06:59 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Leaning Right

But then again, I don’t have a PhD in Economics.

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That’s because you have common sense instead.

The argument is that holders will make money by selling the bond if interest rates go up.

I read another story that this auction went poorly.


4 posted on 08/21/2019 7:08:54 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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To: teeman8r

I’m thinking that you should go get it back.


5 posted on 08/21/2019 7:09:09 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Leaning Right

If the corrupt German politicians cut taxes and regulations they wouldn’t have to resort to negative yields.


6 posted on 08/21/2019 7:10:14 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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The argument is that holders will make money by selling the bond if interest rates go up.

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Ooops. I believe they make money if interest rates go down further into negative territory..


7 posted on 08/21/2019 7:12:13 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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To: Leaning Right

“Shut up and take my money “.

Literally.


8 posted on 08/21/2019 7:16:44 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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I believe they make money if interest rates go down further into negative territory..

Yes, prices are inversely related to yields

9 posted on 08/21/2019 7:20:52 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Leaning Right

This is why we’re getting yield inversion this side of the pond. Investors are buying Treasuries to get the 2% yield.


10 posted on 08/21/2019 7:21:20 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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So someone buying these bonds is betting that the rate will go further negative?

Seems like the only ones who could profit would be "insiders"- who would sell knowing that there was a plan to drop the rate further.
I think the average man on the street would think it draft to purchase a bind, and then pay to hold it.

11 posted on 08/21/2019 7:21:51 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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"The article explains why investors might want to buy a bond with a negative yield. It didn’t make any sense to me."


12 posted on 08/21/2019 7:22:24 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Leaning Right

If cronyism is part of these transactions, then purchasers realize benefits in other nefarious ways not open to public scrutiny or participation.
Globalist propping up their house of cards.


13 posted on 08/21/2019 7:23:53 AM PDT by Track9
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To: Leaning Right

Whatever the Krauts are demanding to take their money, I’ll be happy to hold their money for half as much.


14 posted on 08/21/2019 7:24:28 AM PDT by Stosh
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> I believe they make money if interest rates go down further into negative territory. <

I guess that’s true. A -0.11% bond would be worth more than a -1% bond. But who the heck would buy either bond, especially since these are 30 year bonds? Do investors really believe Germany will someday be issuing -1% bonds? I guess they do.

This world is getting just too crazy. I think I’ll ignore it and go back to watching “Leave It To Beaver”. I wonder what that scamp Eddie Haskell is up to. He’s probably trying to sell the Beav negative interest CDs from the Bank of Haskell.


15 posted on 08/21/2019 7:24:44 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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The article DIDN’T explain though that over half the issue was bought by the German Bundesbank ie) their nominal central bank, under the European Central Bank. There weren’t enough buyers interested in a super long-dated negative yielding bond. Surprise, surprise.

Ie) the Bundesbank just created money from nothing, transferred it to the German Government, in exchange for these bonds.

Central Banks combined with fiat currencies are EVIL.


16 posted on 08/21/2019 7:25:40 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Leaning Right

First time in my life have seen a 30 year bond having negative interest rates.


17 posted on 08/21/2019 7:26:34 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Zhang Fei

There’s over $15 trillion in negative yielding debt so there’s plenty of buyers.

The yield curve is inverted because the Fed is manipulating short term rates too high.

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Click the animate button to see how the significant movement is to the left of the curve as the Fed manipulates rates.

https://stockcharts.com/freecharts/yieldcurve.php


18 posted on 08/21/2019 7:28:40 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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“I read another story that this auction went poorly.”

If the subscription rate wasn’t 3-5 to one, iow if demand was not high and these bonds were not over subscribed that would indicate a poor response.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the German Government didn’t buy at least a part of this offering.


19 posted on 08/21/2019 7:29:31 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: Leaning Right

Is this a superior investment when compared to my Nigerian banking?


20 posted on 08/21/2019 7:31:27 AM PDT by Cold Heart (.)
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