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30% of Confiscated Firearms in California are Homemade
Ammoland ^ | 19 August, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/21/2019 6:13:05 AM PDT by marktwain

30% of Confiscated Firearms in California are Homemade

Several media outlets in California have teamed up with the anti-Second Amendment organization, The Trace, to investigate and write about homemade guns in California. They claim that BATFE sources say 30 percent of guns confiscated in California are homemade. Given there are over 400 million guns in private hands in the United States, and the border between California and other states is porous, and only lightly regulated; it seems an extraordinary number. From nbcbayarea.com:

An Investigation by NBC Bay Area in partnership with NBC San Diego, NBC Los Angeles, and the non-profit journalists at The Trace found that law enforcement agencies across California are recovering record numbers of ghost guns. According to several ATF sources, 30 percent of all guns now recovered by agents in communities throughout California are homemade, un-serialized firearms, known on the street as “ghost guns.”

Guns have been made at home and in small shops for the entire history of the USA.  From criminaldefeselawyer.com:

Individuals in this country have been making their own guns for centuries. The practice is deeply rooted in our constitutional history and tradition. Legal scholars have recognized that the Second Amendment’s guarantee of the right to keep and bear arms would be meaningless in practice unless the state afforded individuals the ability to exercise that right—which includes making their own guns.

For the past almost half-century, however, the sale and subsequent control of firearms have been heavily regulated by federal law.


(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; belongsinbloggers; ca; ghostguns; homemade
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I have doubts about the 30% figure. The media outlets claim BATFE sources.
1 posted on 08/21/2019 6:13:05 AM PDT by marktwain
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I haven’t heard much lately on the 3-D printer front, but I would expect that such technology will mature rapidly, and then homemade guns will be very common indeed.


2 posted on 08/21/2019 6:21:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: marktwain
Goes to show how additional gun laws will be completely ineffective.
Even before 3D printing, anybody with a half decent metal workshop could make a workable gun.

3 posted on 08/21/2019 6:26:28 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: marktwain

Easy to make,
Zip guns.
Look on how to make em on the web.


4 posted on 08/21/2019 6:27:49 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Molon Labe' baby, Molon Labe)
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To: marktwain

When I was 11 years old my fellow neighborhood kids got access to a fathers work bench and we made a rudimentary rifle. If 11 year olds without internet can make a gun how can access be controlled? Oh yes, one of my friends shot his toe off with our weapon.


5 posted on 08/21/2019 6:30:43 AM PDT by Raycpa
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His toe! Well at least it was a success.


6 posted on 08/21/2019 6:32:34 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If you want a definition of "bullying" just watch the Democrats in the Senate)
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I have doubts about the 30% figure. The media outlets claim BATFE sources.

Yeah, they're probably also including people who buy AR lowers.

7 posted on 08/21/2019 6:32:36 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the Left, The truth is Right Wing Extremism.)
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To: marktwain

They probably include pop-tarts, drawings of stick figures with guns, and kids pointing their fingers.


8 posted on 08/21/2019 6:34:17 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (/S liberally (oops) applied to all posts.)
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The feds’ next step is to push for serial numbers on 80% lowers. Take that to the bank.


9 posted on 08/21/2019 6:36:01 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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I have doubts about the 30% figure.

Me, too.

There is a continual deluge of negative unsubstantiated anti-gun "facts."

But back to the point of unregistered and unregister-able firearms... one of my boys suggested purchasing futures on 80% lowers, because they're likely to become the focus of some future media attack.

10 posted on 08/21/2019 6:40:03 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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This says 30% of Confiscated guns in Calif.

I’ll bet most 3-D and 80%ers are still in the hands of their creator (not the Creator).

So how does BATFE (feds) define a confiscated gun and confiscated by whom. Does this include guns taken by Calif LEO?

Or is this how many guns they wish they could confiscate.

If so, that number will double by tomorrow.


11 posted on 08/21/2019 6:41:01 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (/S liberally (oops) applied to all posts.)
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To: Joe Boucher

A old car antenna will make a zip-gun with few tools and little effort.


12 posted on 08/21/2019 6:41:47 AM PDT by Beagle8U (It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
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13 posted on 08/21/2019 6:53:36 AM PDT by PROCON ('Progressive' is a Euphemism for <strike>Totalitarian</strike> COMMUNIST)
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To: marktwain

Good old steel works.


14 posted on 08/21/2019 6:58:36 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Raycpa

LOL! poor bugger!


15 posted on 08/21/2019 6:59:56 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Beagle8U

Could have had real... :)

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/category/barrels/barrel-blanks


16 posted on 08/21/2019 7:02:07 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: BitWielder1
Goes to show how additional gun laws will be completely ineffective. Even before 3D printing, anybody with a half decent metal workshop could make a workable gun.

Exactly. To have effective "gun control" you have to effectively control information, tools, most of society.

In effect, you have to have a totalitarian state.

Even then, people make their own, bribe officials, steal them from police...

17 posted on 08/21/2019 7:04:58 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yep. Efforts to constrain supply are about as successful as prohibition was.

It’s only getting easier to make guns.


18 posted on 08/21/2019 7:06:10 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: marktwain

Note it is 30% of the guns recovered, not 30% of the guns in the population. So it is 30% of the guns actively being used in crime which is easier to understand.


19 posted on 08/21/2019 7:07:58 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Sorry, your race card has been declined. Can you present any other form of argument?")
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To: Openurmind

Kids making a zip-gun don’t buy things they can get off a old car.


20 posted on 08/21/2019 7:08:39 AM PDT by Beagle8U (It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
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