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To: SkyPilot

IMHO, the only Red Flag bill that PDJT will agree to is one that guarantees due process (pre-accused confronts accuser in court before any seizure takes place) and mandates that false accusations result in harsh penalties including prison time, fines, and paying of all court costs.

Democraps will choke on that as will Flimsey Grahamnesty, the little bastard RINO.

FWIW: the last ninety Red Flag denunciations in CA resulted in 89 being dismissed by a judge. You now have 89 disarmed gun owners trying to get their property back.


40 posted on 08/20/2019 4:52:34 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: elcid1970
IMHO, the only Red Flag bill that PDJT will agree to is one that guarantees due process (pre-accused confronts accuser in court before any seizure takes place) and mandates that false accusations result in harsh penalties including prison time, fines, and paying of all court costs.

That isn't what Congress is drafting, and according to several Senators, Trump had called many of them in private over the last 3 weeks and given his support for their "Red Flag Law."

From what I have read, what Congress wants to pass will supply billions of dollars to the states so that they can enact their own "Red Flag Laws" and apply enforcement.

Several states already have "Red Flag Laws", and several gun owners have already been murdered by SWAT teams on no-knock raids.

Other gun owners have had their guns taken from them because an ex-wife, girlfriend, family member, neighbor, or anonymous person called the police - - and that was all she wrote.

Those targeted will have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees in an attempt to get their guns back, and the prospects are dim.

Trump's "guarantee" about Red Flag Laws won't mean anything. States will operate they way they want - once the get the Federal money.

If Trump signs a "Red Flag Law", he might as well sign his own resignation. People who voted for him in 2016 will just stay home. It's human nature, you won't support someone who abused and lied to you on such a sacred issue.

But, perhaps there is some good news. The latest I have read is that Congress is getting ticked, thinking Trump will waiver on signing what they send him.

56 posted on 08/21/2019 2:52:37 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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