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Why Some Christians ‘Love the Meanest Parts’ of Trump [Barf Alert!]
The Atlantic ^ | Aug 18, 2019 | Emma Green

Posted on 08/18/2019 2:18:41 PM PDT by fwdude

Ben Howe is angry at evangelicals. As he describes it, he is angry that they didn’t just vote for Donald Trump in record numbers, but repeatedly provide moral cover for his outrageous failings. He is angry that leaders of the religious right, who long claimed to be the champions of American morality, appear to have gladly traded their values for power. He is angry that Christians claim they support the president because they want to end abortion or protect religious liberty, when supporting Trump suggests that what they really want is a champion who will mock and crush their perceived enemies.

To redeem themselves, Howe believes, evangelicals have to give up their take-no-prisoners culture war.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: christianvote; evangelicals; homosexualagenda; trumpandgod
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Be sure that anyone who says we should “give up the culture war” is a rabid leftist who has no intentions of giving up cultural warfare against conservatism.
1 posted on 08/18/2019 2:18:41 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

We don’t want to DIE at your lefty hands you genocidal a-holes!


2 posted on 08/18/2019 2:23:28 PM PDT by BlackAdderess (Why does Harvard invest in developing world land grabs that harm indigenous people, then yell at us?)
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This little sh**stain Ben Howe is anything but a conservative. Read the interview to see how soft he is on leftist mandates.


3 posted on 08/18/2019 2:24:51 PM PDT by fwdude
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So we should’ve voted for the “moral” Clintons?

The liberal hypocrisy stinks to high heaven

Liberalism truly is a mental disorder


4 posted on 08/18/2019 2:26:01 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Pussie Smollett, Mizzou, campus fake nooses, fake "protests" FAKE EVERYTHING Hey CNN? lol)
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To: fwdude

bump


5 posted on 08/18/2019 2:27:30 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: fwdude

Trump is not that mean to this Christian. I pray to God that he place landmines at the border and he still hasn’t done it. Too damn soft..


6 posted on 08/18/2019 2:27:35 PM PDT by max americana (Fired ONE libtard at work at every election since 2008 because I enjoy it. I hope every lib die.)
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To: fwdude

Has the guy never read the Old Testament. God mocks his foes terribly at times. This guy might have read the book of “playing nice Christianity”.


7 posted on 08/18/2019 2:29:19 PM PDT by melsec (There's a track, winding back, to an old forgotten shack along the road to Gundagai..)
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To: fwdude

Why do “journalists” ‘love the meanest parts’ of Socialism?


8 posted on 08/18/2019 2:29:41 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: fwdude

Leftists project their own hate onto others and mostly onto Christians.

JoMa


9 posted on 08/18/2019 2:30:27 PM PDT by joma89
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To: A_Former_Democrat
From the article interview:

Green: Have you rethought the right’s hatred of Barack Obama, particularly given your argument that character is the most important quality in a leader?

Howe: Between Trump and Obama, there is just no question that Obama exhibited more Christian behavior. I rethought what was scary, I guess. There was stuff I thought was scary back then that’s funny to me now.

Removing any doubt whatsoever that this moron is any type of conservative, or even libertarian.

10 posted on 08/18/2019 2:32:32 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: melsec

He worships a sugar-coated “Jesus” idol.


11 posted on 08/18/2019 2:33:29 PM PDT by fwdude
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The very first part he says that people are required to laud Trump even when he’s wrong, but Trump just said in New Hampshire that people would have to vote for him even if they personally hate him, and he is not wrong on this. This idiot is just like the rest, going after personal attacks and alleged thought crimes when the problem with their side is existential.


12 posted on 08/18/2019 2:36:19 PM PDT by BlackAdderess (Why does Harvard invest in developing world land grabs that harm indigenous people, then yell at us?)
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On the author Emma Green:

[I] talked [with Emma] for over an hour a few weeks back. I enjoyed the interview, but I told my wife afterward that I was struck by how much time Emma spent asking me about LGBT issues and the Ben Op, as if that were the main part of the book and the project. I got the impression that the main question she has about the Benedict Option project is whether or not it’s good for the gays. This didn’t surprise me too much, given that she writes for The Atlantic, which has a particular affinity for writing favorably about LGBT culture (e.g., “Meet the Latino Drag Queens Defying North Carolina’s Anti-LGBT Law”). Still, it struck me as off-kilter — in fact, as an example of progressives and journalists deciding that social and religious conservatives are obsessed with homosexuality, when in fact it is they who are preoccupied with it, and focus disproportionately on it....

And so it turns out that Emma Green didn’t really like The Benedict Option because … it’s not good for the gays.


13 posted on 08/18/2019 2:44:11 PM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: fwdude

These lefties are a problem, and while they are going to get apologists like this guy, they will never, ever, admit when they do and say horrible things. They will only cover it up and move on because they have no interest in ethics, just power. There is no good faith negotiations to be had with them, they will stab you in the back every time. I’ve had communist friends, I’ve had socialist friends, I’ve had proggie friends, but this is not they. My hope is to rescue my friends from these people’s evil, double-dealing, hypocritical clutches.


14 posted on 08/18/2019 2:46:37 PM PDT by BlackAdderess (Why does Harvard invest in developing world land grabs that harm indigenous people, then yell at us?)
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No, what they are angry about is that their favorite Alinski go-to tool is useless. Normally they can point out a moral failing and this destroyed a candidate among Christians.

But these young east coast university chicks miss one big thing. Trump isn’t Pence and doesn’t pretend to be. He loves America, loves Jesus, and LOVES the American people.

every democrat passionately hates all three.


15 posted on 08/18/2019 2:51:17 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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This is the movement equivalent of Hannibal Lechter critiquing theology, because yeah, “you people are supposed to not be able to tell the mote in your eye from the log I’m ‘bout to hit you upside the head with, bit****!”


16 posted on 08/18/2019 2:52:59 PM PDT by BlackAdderess (Why does Harvard invest in developing world land grabs that harm indigenous people, then yell at us?)
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Speaking as an east coast university chick, this is not an east coast thing. This is a west coast thing that has staggered out of a haze of the devil’s lettuce to try to condescend to speak to “those people” whose graves these a-holes have prematurely danced on.


17 posted on 08/18/2019 2:58:10 PM PDT by BlackAdderess (Why does Harvard invest in developing world land grabs that harm indigenous people, then yell at us?)
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To: fwdude

And in the article, this pious guy attacking Trump uses constant filthy language. So does miss goody two shoes the religion writer at the Atlantic.

Laughable. They are frustrated that we no longer follow their script.

He’s probably another closet homo. The Evangelical movement has had a few just as our Catholic bretheren have.


18 posted on 08/18/2019 3:05:18 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Atheist always point out that Christians are sinners (we never said we weren't) whenever the race card isn't working. And therefore, in their mind, it is wrongful to even attempt to have morals.

It seems like a pretty flimsy argument. It's like stating that "Well, everybody poops, therefore using a latrine is hypocritical." To which normal people roll their eyes, hold their noses, and step around the steaming pile of progressivist equivalency the leftist just deposited on the San Francisco sidewalk.

19 posted on 08/18/2019 3:05:42 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (“They are openly planning to murder you. Prep if you want to live.”)
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To: fwdude
Amazon Introduction:

"In 2016, writer and filmmaker Ben Howe found himself disillusioned with the religious movement he’d always called home. In the pursuit of electoral victory, many American evangelicals embraced moral relativism and toxic partisanship.

Whatever happened to the Moral Majority, who headed to Washington in the ’80s to plant the flag of Christian values? Where were the Christian leaders that emerged from that movement and led the charge against Bill Clinton for his deception and unfaithfulness? Was all that a sham? Or have they just lost sight of why they wanted to win in the first place? From the 1980s scandals till today, evangelicals have often been caricatured as a congregation of judgmental and prudish rubes taken in by thundering pastors consumed with greed and lust for power. Did the critics have a point?

In The Immoral Majority, Howe—still a believer and still deeply conservative—analyzes and debunks the intellectual dishonesty and manipulative rhetoric which evangelical leaders use to convince Christians to toe the Republican Party line. He walks us through the history of the Christian Right, as well as the events of the last three decades which led to the current state of the conservative movement at large.

As long as evangelicals prioritize power over persuasion, Howe argues, their pews will be empty and their national influence will dwindle. If evangelicals hope to avoid cultural irrelevance going forward, it will mean valuing the eternal over the ephemeral, humility over ego, and resisting the seduction of political power, no matter the cost. The Immoral Majority demonstrates how the Religious Right is choosing the profits of this world at the cost of its soul—and why it’s not too late to change course."

The purpose of this book is to shame Conservative Christians for allegedly abandoning their faith and voting for evil.

Christians know Trump isn't a saint and they didn't vote for a saint. They voted for a flawed man they believe can fix Americas' problems.

Ben Howe Twitter

20 posted on 08/18/2019 3:11:04 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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