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A Bad Deal, 80 Years Ago
Townhall.com ^ | August 15, 2019 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 08/15/2019 5:02:54 AM PDT by Kaslin

Some 80 years ago, on Aug. 23, 1939, Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, formally known as the "Treaty of non-aggression between Germany and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics."

The world was shocked — and terrified — by the agreement. Western democracies of the 1930s had counted on the huge resources of Communist Russia, and its hostility to the Nazis, to serve as a brake on Adolf Hitler's Western ambitions. Great Britain and the other Western European democracies had assumed that the Nazis would never invade them as long as a hostile Soviet Union threatened the German rear.

The incompatibility between communism and Nazism was considered by all to be existential — and permanent. That mutual hatred explained why dictators Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin both despised and feared each other.

Yet all at once, such illusions vanished with the signing of the pact. Just seven days later, on Sept. 1, 1939, Germany invaded Poland. World War II had begun.

After quickly absorbing most of Eastern Europe by either coercion or alliance, Hitler was convinced that he now had a safe rear. So he turned west in spring 1940 to overrun Denmark, Norway, Belgium, Luxembourg, France, and the Netherlands.

Hitler accomplished all that relatively easily, failing only to conquer Great Britain with an exhaustive bombing campaigning.

During all these Nazi conquests, a compliant Stalin shipped huge supplies of food and fuel for the German war effort against the West. Stalin cynically had hoped that Germany and the Western democracies would wear themselves out in a wasting war — similar to the four horrific years in the trenches of the Western Front during World War I.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: hitler; josephstalin; nazigermany; nonagressionpact; sovietunion; worldwarii; ww2
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To: nathanbedford

—”I think that might have been behind Trump’s thinking when he appointed Rex Tillerson his first Secretary of State, a man with known intimate relationship with Putin.”

Very good point I hadn’t thought of about Tillerson. Good plans for Russia relations gone down the drain because of the “collusion” witch hunt for 2 years.

Glad you agree about the demographic future of EU. It’ll be interesting times when the allies we used to trust will no longer be our friends.


81 posted on 08/15/2019 3:26:12 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: LS
Kids take 20 years

All the more reason to start getting busy...

82 posted on 08/15/2019 5:00:50 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: GOPsterinMA; BenLurkin; DarthVader

There were only two differences between Hitler and Stalin...

Custom, Tailor-made uniforms

and

Stalin had a bigger mustache than Hitler, which pissed Hitler off, because as we all know, “size matters”...

They were both Socialist killing machines, pushing the same murderous Socialist ideology.


83 posted on 08/16/2019 7:40:17 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


84 posted on 08/16/2019 3:41:21 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

It was pure jealousy that made Hitler turn on his old pal Uncle Joey.

Mustache Envy.


85 posted on 08/16/2019 9:29:16 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

That.

Or a clash of “My recipe for a s**t sandwich has more s**t in it than yours. And I’m gonna make you eat it and find out!”.


86 posted on 08/17/2019 3:40:29 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

In Hoover’s book “Masters of Deceit” he talked about the sudden shift in American communist sentiments - from being Pro-Nazi and cheering on Hitler when Adolf was all lovey-dovey with Uncle Joey, to suddenly “Hey, the Germans are the greatest evil the world has seen since Limburger Cheese” after the Barbarossa invasion in June 1941.

Gee.. amazing how commies shift their allegiances, ain’t it?

To put it bluntly, so even the dullest of liberals can understand it - the communists LOVED the Nazis until the Nazis cheaped out on Date Night with them...

One can compare it to more recent events... the democrats LOVED the Soviet Union when they were commie f*cktards; they HATE Russia now that Russians are no longer commie f*cktards... but the dems still are.

Coincidence, I’m SURE... /s (as if...)


87 posted on 08/17/2019 8:56:06 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; DarthVader

Two sides of the same coin now, as it was then.


88 posted on 08/17/2019 10:38:50 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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