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China, Not Russia, the Greater Threat
Townhall.com ^ | August 13, 2019 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 08/13/2019 5:33:34 AM PDT by Kaslin

Ten weeks of protests, some huge, a few violent, culminated Monday with a shutdown of the Hong Kong airport.

Ominously, Beijing described the violent weekend demonstrations as "deranged" acts that are "the first signs of terrorism," and vowed a merciless crackdown on the perpetrators.

China is being pushed toward a decision it does not want to make: to use military force, as in Tiananmen Square 30 years ago, to crush the uprising. For that would reveal the character of President Xi Jinping's Communist dictatorship, as well as Beijing's long-term plans for this semi-autonomous city of almost 7.5 million.

Yet this is not the only internal or border concern of Xi's regime.

Millions of Muslim Uighurs in China's west are in concentration camps undergoing "re-education" to change their way of thinking on loyalty, secession and the creation of a new East Turkestan.

In June, a Chinese vessel rammed and sank a Philippine fishing boat, leaving its 22 crewmen to drown. The fishermen were rescued by a Vietnamese boat.

President Rodrigo Duterte's reluctance to resist China's fortification in the South China Sea of the rocks and reefs Manila claims are within its own territorial waters has turned Philippine nationalism anti-China.

China's claim to Taiwan is being defied by Taipei, which just bought $2.2 billion in U.S. military equipment including Abrams tanks and Stinger missiles.

Any Taiwanese declaration of independence, China has warned, means war.

While Taiwan's request to buy U.S. F-16s has not yet been approved, in a rare visit, Taiwan's President Tsai Ing-wen stopped over in the U.S. recently, before traveling on to Caribbean countries that retain diplomatic relations with Taipei. Beijing has expressed its outrage at the U.S. arms sales and Tsai's unofficial visit.

The vaunted Chinese economy is growing, at best, at half the double-digit rate of a decade ago, not enough to create the jobs needed for hundreds of millions in the countryside seeking work.

And talks have been suspended in the U.S.-China trade dispute, at the heart of which, says White House aide Peter Navarro, are Beijing's "seven deadly sins" in dealing with the United States:

China steals our intellectual property via cybertheft, forces U.S. companies in China to transfer technology, hacks our computers, dumps into our markets to put U.S. companies out of business, subsidizes state-owned enterprises to compete with U.S. firms, manipulates its currency, and, despite our protests, ships to the USA the fentanyl drug that has become a major killer of Americans.

Such practices have enabled China to run up annual trade surpluses of $300 billion to $400 billion at our expense, and, says Navarro, have caused the loss of 70,000 factories and 5 million manufacturing jobs in the U.S.

Moreover, China has used the accumulated wealth of its huge trade surpluses to finance its drive for hegemony in Asia and beyond.

With President Donald Trump threatening 10% tariffs on $300 billion more in Chinese exports to the U.S., Xi must decide if he is willing to end his trade-war tactics against the U.S., which have gone on during the Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations. If he refuses, will he accept the de-coupling of our two economies?

Only Trump has taken on the Middle Kingdom.

If the American people and Congress are willing to play hardball and accept sacrifices, we can win this face-off. The U.S. buys five times as much from China as we sell to China. The big loser in this confrontation, if we stay the course, will not be the USA.

For three years, the U.S. establishment has not ceased to howl about Russia's theft of emails of the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign.

et the greatest cybercrime of the century was Beijing's theft in 2014 of the personnel files of 22 million applicants and employees of the U.S. government, many of them holding top-secret clearances.

Compromised by this theft, said then FBI Director James Comey, was a "treasure trove of information about everybody who has worked for, tried to work for, or works for the United States government."

"A very big deal from a national security ... and counterintelligence perspective," said Comey. And Xi's China, not Putin's Russia, committed the crime. Yet America's elites appear to have forgotten this far graver act of cyberaggresion.

Undeniably, Russia is a rival. But Putin's economy is the size of Italy's while China's economy challenges our own. And China's population is 10 times that of Russia, and four times that of the USA.

Manifestly, China is the greater menace.

Are Americans willing to make the necessary sacrifices to force China to abide by the rules of reciprocal trade?

Or will Trump be forced by political realities to accept the long-term and ruinous relationship we have followed since granting China permanent MFN status in 2001?

This issue is likely to decide the destiny of our relations and the future of Asia, if not the world.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: china; foreiognpolicy; russia

1 posted on 08/13/2019 5:33:34 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Both are but people are focused on Russia, Russia, Russia!


2 posted on 08/13/2019 5:35:35 AM PDT by McGruff (If you hate our Country, or if you are not happy here, you can leave!)
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To: Kaslin

Says the guy for works for Russia.

BTW I do happen to believe China is the bigger threat.


3 posted on 08/13/2019 5:38:15 AM PDT by Valin
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To: Kaslin

The tyranny of our own mostly unconstitutional $4 trillion Federal Government, not China or Russia, is the even greater threat.


4 posted on 08/13/2019 5:43:13 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: McGruff

[Both are but people are focused on Russia, Russia, Russia!]


Neither the media nor the Dems are worried about Russia (or China). That’s why they were whaling on Trump for withdrawing from the INF treating. Complaining about foreign interference is a tactic, not a core conviction. They certainly have no issues with foreign interference in our immigration policies.


5 posted on 08/13/2019 5:45:01 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Valin

China is very close to having a blue-water navy, and shall be able to project power in a way the Russians never could.

The Russians are dependent on Scandinavian countries and Turkey for their access to the open sea for some eight or nine months of the year, as they are bottled up in the Baltic in the west and the Black Sea in the south.

The Russians can send forth submarines, of course, but that is not nearly as powerful a statement as an armada of cruisers and aircraft carriers.


6 posted on 08/13/2019 5:48:22 AM PDT by alloysteel (Nowhere in the Universe is there escape from the consequences of the crime of stupidity.)
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To: Valin

You believe Pat Buchanan to be a Russian agent?

That’s funny right there. I don’t care who you are.


7 posted on 08/13/2019 6:05:43 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Kaslin
Who’dah thunk a crisis would emerge decades after most favored nation status was given to a COMMUNIST dictatorship.

American corporations, congress and past presidents should be ashamed of themselves for putting the $$ almighty dollar $$ over the financial health of the American middle class and national security.

Chi-coms have taken advantage of all the U.S. dollars pouring into their economy to build their military double digits for decades.

Our dumb @$$ leaders allowed outsourcing of sensitive technologies, allowing an environment that facilitated Chi-com infiltration of our research institutions, corporations, financial sector, government/intelligence.

To top it all off...borrowing trillions from a country that is technically our enemy...communist China. Good grief!

What the hell could go wrong?

8 posted on 08/13/2019 6:13:56 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

A capitalist will sell you the rope to hang himself with.


9 posted on 08/13/2019 6:19:56 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Kaslin

Red China has always been a greater threat than Russia or the USSR. And they’ve been enriched and empowered by several decades of stupid US foreign policy and trade policy which allowed commercial interests to make decisions that should have been made by national security interests.

But, of course, those who pushed that policy promised us that the Red Chinese would all become freedom loving capitalists after a few years of “free trade” and being part of the WTO.


10 posted on 08/13/2019 6:25:53 AM PDT by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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To: alloysteel

You are selling submarines short. They are currently the main strategic element of any Navy. That counts for SSBNs of course and China is currently about the level US and Russia were in 1959 in terms of technology.
Modern SSBN packs a punch. It is roughly 200 independently targeted nuclear warheads 20 times the Hiroshima each.
Who has them? US, Russia, UK, France and India.
Russia and US has modern SSBNs in dozens, France and UK has a couple to five boats operational, India has exactly one and basically Russian import.
China has just under a dozen subs which are technologically inferior to any of the above by 40 years.
The firepower alone of the whole Chinese fleet is below that of the single Indian sub. The best of Chinese subs is armed with about a dozen warheads, each on a single missile. A 1970 US or Russian sub packs ten to twenty times the punch and in a more reliable and durable package.


11 posted on 08/13/2019 6:37:30 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Kaslin

Some of us have been saying this for years.


12 posted on 08/13/2019 8:08:36 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

>>A capitalist will sell you the rope to hang himself with.<<
Capitalism is the greatest economic model in history. What we are talking about here is a type of perverted capitalism. More globalism. Citizens of the earth...no loyalty to the country of your birth nor it’s citizens.

Sell your momma for a nickel.


13 posted on 08/13/2019 8:14:49 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Valin

If/when it comes to teaming up with one or the other, I’d pick Russia. We better start teaming up now before they team up against us.


14 posted on 08/13/2019 8:34:29 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Kaslin

Pat is my hero.

I wish he were young enough to run in 2024.


15 posted on 08/13/2019 12:47:26 PM PDT by Farcesensitive
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To: Mariner

Did I say Russian agent?


16 posted on 08/15/2019 7:52:03 AM PDT by Valin
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