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China's Central Bank 'De-Dollarizes', Buys More Gold
Kitco News ^ | 08-08-2019 | Anna Golubova

Posted on 08/07/2019 12:33:36 PM PDT by NRx

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1 posted on 08/07/2019 12:33:36 PM PDT by NRx
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To: NRx
Hedge against inflation...........they must expect some...............🤑
2 posted on 08/07/2019 12:36:52 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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To: Red Badger

It’s a smart move. Bond yields are so low as to be either flat or negative when adjusting for inflation. Globally debt levels have never been higher and central banks are cranking up the printing presses. Here in the US Trump is once again pressuring the Fed to print more money.


3 posted on 08/07/2019 12:40:31 PM PDT by NRx (A man of honor passes his father's civilization to his son without surrendering it to strangers.)
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To: Red Badger

Inflation often comes when you devalue your currency.


4 posted on 08/07/2019 12:40:39 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - dad's wisdom)
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To: Red Badger; NRx

“Hedge against inflation”

That, among other reasons. Gold in hand can’t be frozen by sanctions, like dollar-based accounts could be.

Also gold can be untraceable wealth for elites to flee with, or conduct malign activity.


5 posted on 08/07/2019 12:42:24 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Red Badger

You can’t eat rocks.

rwood


6 posted on 08/07/2019 12:42:33 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: NRx

I have to display my ignorance a bit and ask a question.

So China manipulated their own currency to devalue it against the dollar. I assume this is to hold a price point from it’s own manufacturers to offset the taxes and market price increase here in the USA. But I’m struggling to grasp how that doesn’t also hurt China’s economy.

If they artificially devalue their money, doesn’t it also increase the cost of international commodities (like energy) for their investors and citizens? It seems like that would do more damage to their economy than just losing sales in one industry. Hell they are creating inflation, right?

I’m sure I am missing something or am confused. A smarter FReeper is welcome to explain the China Strategy to me.


7 posted on 08/07/2019 12:43:41 PM PDT by Tenacious 1
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To: BeauBo

But you can void all debts owed to China from the FED and clear the debt by a few trillion. Then China holds no markers against the USA. And the US Gov will void the debt owed to the FED. Poof, instant spiral for China.


8 posted on 08/07/2019 12:44:26 PM PDT by King_Corey (Buy American - https://madeinamericastore.com/)
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To: BeauBo

Their oil suppliers may start demanding payments in gold, silver, platinum..........


9 posted on 08/07/2019 12:44:56 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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To: taxcontrol

Often? Heck I would think it’s a result!........mmm?


10 posted on 08/07/2019 12:46:26 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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To: Red Badger

gold crossed $1500@oz. I expect gold to be $2000@oz by year end.


11 posted on 08/07/2019 12:47:13 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

That would suck............


12 posted on 08/07/2019 12:52:25 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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To: Red Badger

Small cap gold stocks are going insane the past few weeks.

I said in a few posts that gold would DEFINITELY go past 1500 and I think it will cross 1650 this year.

I just didn’t expect it to cross 1500 THIS WEEK!!

14 trillion dollars out there earning negative interest in the world and the tariff issues with China as well as more rate cuts to come could send gold to 2000 again next year.

Even once an agreement is made with China, it won’t be long before they break it and and land in trouble again.

I believe eventually Trump will be successful with China but it won’t be fast and it won’t be easy.

Like some of my ex’s :)


13 posted on 08/07/2019 12:52:46 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: Tenacious 1

To the extent China has been manipulating its currency, it has been doing so to support it, not depress it. In past years China did try to keep the yuan low. But it has been supporting the yuan for most of the last 5-10 years. If China let its currency float freely it would drop by at least a third.

The Chinese may be sensing that the level of global debt is reaching a tipping point beyond which it will not be sustainable. That means we could start seeing a wave of defaults and/or a wave of money printing by central banks in an effort to prop up bond markets. Long term, money printing means inflation. Gold (and silver) is the only money that is impervious to the knavery of politicians and central bankers.


14 posted on 08/07/2019 12:54:45 PM PDT by NRx (A man of honor passes his father's civilization to his son without surrendering it to strangers.)
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To: NRx

That’s OK.

The main thing is that they are not selling US treasuries, which would hurt the US.


15 posted on 08/07/2019 12:56:24 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: dp0622; Red Badger

there is a graph floating around which shows a 1-1 correlation between the price of gold and negative interest bonds. Currently all the negative interest bonds are in europe and asia. The usa is one of the few countries with positive interest bonds so money flows toward the USA. That’s why both the dollar and gold are rising.


16 posted on 08/07/2019 12:58:14 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Innovative

the US has to get both the trade deficit and the budget deficit down.

So far neither has happened.


17 posted on 08/07/2019 12:59:33 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: NRx

$88.9 billion for an economy with a 12 trillion GDP is hardly “de-dollarizing”, it’s more like a drop in the bucket ...

they could buy all 7.5 trillion dollars of gold ever mined in history, and it STILL wouldn’t do them much good ...


18 posted on 08/07/2019 12:59:38 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: ckilmer

You think we’ll ever see negative interest rates here?

Are there ANY already?


19 posted on 08/07/2019 1:01:10 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: ckilmer

These things are very hard and don’t happen overnight.

Trump is working on it, but doesn’t have support from Congress.


20 posted on 08/07/2019 1:01:24 PM PDT by Innovative
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