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Where’s the victim? In trial of couple accused in UW assault, defense questions absence of protester
Seattle Times ^ | Aug. 1, 2019 | Mike Carter

Posted on 08/06/2019 9:28:12 AM PDT by RideForever

Dozens of witnesses gave testimony for and against a Seattle couple accused of assaulting anti-fascist protesters at the University of Washington in 2017. But it was the witness who didn’t appear who got the most attention from their attorneys during closing arguments in the case Thursday. Where, the lawyers for Marc and Elizabeth Hokoana asked the jury, was Joshua Phelan Dukes? Dukes, 35, an avowed anarchist and antifa sympathizer, was shot and critically wounded by Elizabeth Hokoana during the violent demonstrations in the UW’s Red Square, before an appearance by far-right provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos on the evening of President Donald Trump’s inauguration, Jan. 20, 2017. Elizabeth Hokoana claimed Dukes had charged her husband with a knife after Marc Hokoana had fired pepper-spray into the crowd to rescue a photographer who was being beaten by antifa protesters. But Dukes, who works as a computer-security expert, had refused to testify at the trial, claiming through his lawyer, Abigail Cromwell, that he didn’t believe in or trust the U.S. justice system, and prosecutors were left to put on a case without a victim. During closing arguments after a five-week trial, his absence was used by defense attorneys to raise questions about the validity of the state’s case. Why didn’t he testify? they asked. What was the state hiding? The King County Prosecutor’s Office could have had Dukes arrested as a material witness, but Senior Deputy Prosecutor Raam Wong said before the trial that he would not do that. Dukes had nearly died from his wound, and he and his partner were expecting a child. However, that information wasn’t shared with the jury, and the panel retired Thursday for deliberations with the questions raised by the Hokoanas’ lawyers left unanswered.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: abigailcromwell; antifa; elizabethhokoana; genderdysphoria; homosexualagenda; joshuaphelandukes; kingcounty; marchokoana; miloyiannopoulos; raamwong; seattle; washington
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Couldn't find a verdict in this case. The local paper had additional info that the victim refused to testify at the trial. Doesn't that violate our right to face our accuser in a fair trial?
1 posted on 08/06/2019 9:28:12 AM PDT by RideForever
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To: RideForever

“far-right provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos”

Oh please.


2 posted on 08/06/2019 9:33:01 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: RideForever
The local paper had additional info that the victim refused to testify at the trial. Doesn't that violate our right to face our accuser in a fair trial?

No, if the victim had been killed, he would surely then not testify, but a prosecution could still go forward.

3 posted on 08/06/2019 9:33:32 AM PDT by The people have spoken (Proud member of Hillary's basket of deplorables)
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To: RideForever

Accusers can also be witnesses instead of victims. In such cases, victims aren’t actually accusers.


4 posted on 08/06/2019 9:36:10 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: RideForever
"...and he and his partner were expecting a child."

Most troubling aspect of this entire story...

5 posted on 08/06/2019 9:38:11 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: dljordan

Has Milo Yiannopoulos ever appeared in public in a mask and beat anybody senseless? Antifa has and it is on videotape. More selective law enforcement by the left.


6 posted on 08/06/2019 9:38:35 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: RideForever

When I read articles like this I have to ask myself, “has the civil war already started?”


7 posted on 08/06/2019 9:40:40 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Islam---At war with Western Civilization for 1400 years.)
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To: RideForever

What “anti-fascist protesters”?

Oh, the Occupy Wall Street anarchists.


8 posted on 08/06/2019 9:40:59 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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“Dukes had charged her husband with a knife after Marc Hokoana had fired pepper-spray into the crowd to rescue a photographer who was being beaten by antifa protesters.”

Could be.


9 posted on 08/06/2019 9:42:27 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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>>“far-right provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos”

Oh please.<<

A gadfly yes — “far right” — HARDLY.


10 posted on 08/06/2019 9:46:23 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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“Dukes had charged her husband with a knife after Marc Hokoana had fired pepper-spray into the crowd to rescue a photographer who was being beaten by antifa protesters.”

If that's what happened, what else could they do?

11 posted on 08/06/2019 9:46:42 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: RideForever

The Confrontation Clause of the 6th Amendment to the Constitution guarantees the right to confront witnesses, not accusers.


12 posted on 08/06/2019 9:48:31 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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The Confrontation Clause of the 6th Amendment to the Constitution guarantees the right to confront witnesses, not accusers.

Nobody claimed otherwise. The defense merely noted the very strange circumstance that a victim refuses to be a part of a prosecution. Reasonable Doubt is all they need.

13 posted on 08/06/2019 9:56:43 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: dljordan

A gay dude with a black boyfriend is “far right”. Delusional.


14 posted on 08/06/2019 10:00:25 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: The people have spoken

The criminal case is brought by the county or city or state. The victim would be the plaintiff in a civil case.


15 posted on 08/06/2019 10:04:39 AM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
The case should have been dismissed. Oh, and the shooter should consider more range time.

16 posted on 08/06/2019 10:14:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: The people have spoken

The prosecution would then have John Edwards, channel the spirit of the victim and testify on their behalf.


17 posted on 08/06/2019 10:22:01 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the disco)
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To: RideForever

far-right provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos

How in the world is Milo a “far-right provacateur”?


18 posted on 08/06/2019 11:13:29 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: Teacher317

Actually, had you bothered to read the post I was replying to, he did.


19 posted on 08/06/2019 11:56:02 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: ro_dreaming

How in the world is Milo a “far-right provacateur”?
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He’s a young-ish, British, well-educated, white gay man with a black male partner and he supports Trump, Western Civilization and the US Constitution with compelling logic, excellent linguistic skills and spot-on humor. He is persuasive and persistent.

What other definition could there be?/s


20 posted on 08/06/2019 12:18:31 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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