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To: mdmathis6

>>When the scientific method can be employed to produce morally sane and just people without resort to the tautology of God and religion(as current worshippers of the scientific method has faddishly described them), then science may have found something truly useful other than experiments that simply explain the grand entropy of the universe.<<

Sorry to be the one to break it to you, but that is the definition of Science. What IS not what we WANT to be.


549 posted on 10/14/2019 5:33:49 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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To: freedumb2003; Kalamata

“Sorry to be the one to break it to you, but that is the definition of Science. What IS not what we WANT to be.”

That is the modern popularized definition of science, it is not the science of men such as Newton or Copernicus or the science and math of the ancient Greeks or sought out the divine through math and numbers. They acknowledged their religious pre-biases and had no thought how such pre-biases concerning the divine might have tainted their work and their experimentation.

Modern science has come to dead stop in terms of innovation. Oh there are years of work left to run through the various side branches opened up by the greats of the past but there are no more new great men being produced since the early 20th century. Marxist utopian group think and its atheist inquisition has destroyed true innovation by quashing faith and the ability of faith to allow a leaping beyond logic to find inspiration. Reason alone can only follow a trail of data but faith coupled with reason blazes new trails.

Paul says that we “know in part and we believe in part; faith being the things we long for and of things unseen.”
We can study and object and observe its properties but there still remains a gap between what is known and the object itself.

True science can be symbolized as Descartes and Hume joined at the hip....modern science is what we got when Descartes was split away and discarded in favor of David Hume. The split occurred there when the process of science and reason were split from their rationalistic roots. (colored by a Judeo-Christian consensus that had suffused Western nations of those times...the attempt was to try to get rid of such colorations hence the more towards a sterile empirical model od the practice of science...hence my use of Descartes and Hume in symbolizing such a split).

Humans reason but they also can believe. For science to truly progress again to lead us to heights unseen, it must learn embrace the humanity of faith and reason.

Eve knew only truth...”eat this, you die..” Satan introduced the “maybe you won’t!”


565 posted on 10/16/2019 3:37:12 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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