[Kalamata]

>>Kalamata quoting aligncare ">>BJK simply said that you displayed similarities in style, language, techniques & logic to some Holocaust deniers..."
>>Kalamata: "He is using the same trick the left uses to marginalize their opponents."
>>Joey said: "I am merely pointing out what others have also noticed, that when I compare the debate tactics of anti-evolutionist Kalamata to those of Holocaust deniers from now nearly 20 years ago, they match up almost exactly -- except in one important area: Holocaust deniers were vulgar beyond anything allowable on Free Republic.

Pure sophistry. Joey uses exactly the same smear tactics as his buddies on the Far-Left. What he will not tell you is, he is an apologist for the anti-Christian ACLU communists and their war on the free exercise of religion, nor will he tell you that his religion of evolutionism was one of the chief holocaust enablers, not to mention the enabler of eugenics, virulent racism, and the other 20th century butchers: Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.

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>>Joey said: "The significance to me is that today we very seldom hear of Holocaust denial outside the domains of radical Islam. That old generation of western deniers seems to have died off, even as they loudly proclaimed Total Victory. It's what I think of when I see Kalamata loudly proclaiming the "Death of Evolutionism".

Evolutionism is dead, Joey. Only a handful of science deniers, like you, still worship that religion, and its prophet, Charlie Darwin.

From the beginning, the theories of evolution and uniformitarianism were used to deceive people, especially children, into doubting the Word of God. That was one of the stated goals of Charles Lyell:

"I am sure you may get into Q. R. what will free the science from Moses, for if treated seriously, the party are quite prepared for it. A bishop, Buckland ascertained (we suppose Sumner), gave Ure a dressing in the 'British Critic and Theological Review.' They see at last the mischief and scandal brought on them by Mosaic systems. Eerussac has done nothing but believe in the universal ocean up to the chalk period till lately. Prevost has done a little, but is a diluvialist, a rare thing in France." [Letter to Poulett Scrope, Esq., 9 Crown Office Row, Temple, June 14, 1830, in Charles Lyell, "Life, letters and journals of Sir Charles Lyell Vol I." John Murray, 1881, Chap. XI, p.268]

Charlie Darwin took Lyell's book with him on his five-year voyage of the Beagle.

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>>Kalamata: "That is a talking point. I am seeking observable evidence for common descent. That is all."
>>Joey said: "That's Denier Rule #1.

You are such a nasty child, Joey.

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>>Joey said: If Kalamata had any respect for science, his good eyes would see that common descent is a theory, evidence for it found in fossils, DNA, morphology, ontology & geology. Instead, Kalamata closes his eyes, relying on the broken reed argument of "talking point".

If Joey has a clue what science entailed, and had any respect for it, he would seek out the underlying science, rather than the fake-news headlines of the "scientific" orthodoxy to promote his worldview.

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>>Kalamata: "Accepting something for which there is no evidence is called religion. I already have a religion. I don’t need two."
>>Joey said: "Here Kalamata even insults his own religion, claiming "there is no evidence" for it when in fact his good eyes could see lots of evidence, if he simply chose to.

Don't be fooled by Joey's sanctimonious sophistry. He is the consummate science denier. There is now, and has been, a virtual army of paleontologists, biologists, and genetic researchers, worldwide, seeking evidence for evolution; and what have they found: Nothing! There is not a shred of evidence for evolution to be found anywhere: not in day-to-day observations, not in the fossil record, not in biology, and especially not in genetics. There is plenty of evidence for devolution (the loss of genetic information), but none for evolution (the gain in genetic information).

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>>Kalamata: "God told us how he created man, and it was not by evolution"
>>Joey said: "That's a lie, the Bible only tells us that God began with dirt, which is also what some origin-of-life ideas suggest."

You are lying, Joey. God told us that, at the beginning of creation, he formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth . . . So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them . . . And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day . . . And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female." -- Gen 1:26,27,31, 2:7; Mar 10:6 KJV

God NEVER said man evolved from a bacteria, or a frog, or an ape, before breathing the breath of life into his nostrils. Only a deceiver would add words to the scripture and pretend they belong there.

Mr. Kalamata

[BroJoeK]

Danny Denier post #361: "Pure sophistry.
Joey uses exactly the same smear tactics as his buddies on the Far-Left.
What he will not tell you is, he is an apologist for the anti-Christian ACLU communists and their war on the free exercise of religion, nor will he tell you that his religion of evolutionism was one of the chief holocaust enablers, not to mention the enabler of eugenics, virulent racism, and the other 20th century butchers: Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot."

That's an amazing rant, not a word of truth in it -- something I would fully expect from a Holocaust denier and now also confirmed in an evolution denier.
Denial is denial, despicable tactics are the same, only the subject matter changes.

See Denier Rules especially #8.

Danny Denier:"Evolutionism is dead, Joey.
Only a handful of science deniers, like you, still worship that religion, and its prophet, Charlie Darwin."

Written from the hand of a true denier, totally false.
Danny Denier Rules #1, #2, #5, #6, #7 & #13.

Danny Denier:"From the beginning, the theories of evolution and uniformitarianism were used to deceive people, especially children, into doubting the Word of God.
That was one of the stated goals of Charles Lyell:"

The alleged response in 1880 of the Bishop of Birmingham’s wife on learning that Charles Darwin claimed human beings were descended from monkeys, she is reported to have said to her husband,

‘My dear, let us hope it is not true; but, if it is true, let us hope it will not become generally known.’

That story is certainly apocryphal, first invented in 1893 by one pastor Robert Forman Horton, and his point was: Don't Fear the Truth!.

Danny Denier:"You are such a nasty child, Joey."

Denier Rules #5, #6 & #7.

Danny Denier:"If Joey has a clue what science entailed, and had any respect for it, he would seek out the underlying science, rather than the fake-news headlines of the "scientific" orthodoxy to promote his worldview."

Nonsense, more Danny Denier Rules #5, #6 & #7.

Danny Denier:"Don't be fooled by Joey's sanctimonious sophistry.
He is the consummate science denier.
There is now, and has been, a virtual army of paleontologists, biologists, and genetic researchers, worldwide, seeking evidence for evolution; and what have they found:
Nothing!
There is not a shred of evidence for evolution to be found anywhere: not in day-to-day observations, not in the fossil record, not in biology, and especially not in genetics.
There is plenty of evidence for devolution (the loss of genetic information), but none for evolution (the gain in genetic information)."

And still more absurd nonsense, Danny Denier Rules #1, #2, #5, #6, #7 & #13.

Danny Denier:"You are lying, Joey.
God told us that, at the beginning of creation, he formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils"

Right, that's just what I said, meaning: if I lied saying it, you're also lying now.

Danny Denier:"God NEVER said man evolved from a bacteria, or a frog, or an ape, before breathing the breath of life into his nostrils.
Only a deceiver would add words to the scripture and pretend they belong there."

Well... first, natural science in general does not add a single word to scripture because science only deals in natural explanations for natural processes.
So scripture is outside the limits of science.

Second, the Bible does not tell us how God created mankind, except that He started with dirt, which is also roughly what science suggests.
I see no conflict there.