>>Kalamata is all about “smug”, I don’t do “smug”. In fact I enjoyed the lecture, it’s why I listened to all 58 minutes (!) of it.
You were smug. I believe you characterized his lecture as a “rabbit hole”.
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>>And I did hear some things I’d not heard before, but the key takeaway remains the fact that there’s still vastly more we don’t know than do. That means to me there’s unlikely to be an end to employment opportunities in this field. We don’t know how much Federal tax money supports origin of life research. I am not aware of any O.O.L research that is not funded by federal grant money. I suspect not very much money because to hear your man Tour tell it, there’s not really very much of it going on. Tour even claims there’ve been no real advances since Miller-Urey in 1952!
You are guessing.
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>>By definition a “fact” is simply a confirmed observation, such as the globe-shaped Earth — it was a theory, now a fact. Evolution is a confirmed theory based on literal mountains of facts — deny them all you wish, they still exist.
When are you going to throw out a single pebble of evidence from that mountain you claim to exist?
Admit it. You don’t know of any scientific evidence for evolutionism, and you are merely parrotting propaganda from the party line.
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>>Right — I did watch the video, all 58 minutes of it, and right, your man Tour wants to stop origin of life research to punish those who he claims have over-hyped it. Tour’s word is “moratorium” on research, until those people confess their alleged sins of claiming too much for science!
I believe Tour was being much too lenient. We should shut down ALL research that has been over-hyped. That would release the taxpayer from any obligation to fund the religion of evolutionism and the big-bang.
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>>No! That’s what he said, go back and review your own piece yourself. I’ll save you some time, start at minute ~54:50.
I was referring to this gibberish by you:
>>Then, I’d suppose, as soon as everybody who made such claims recants their heresies, then the research can continue.<<
Start at 54:48 for Tour’s statements on the moratorium. No real scientist would object. He finished at 56:00.
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>>Tours goes straight from his moratorium to condemning over-hypers to quoting Deuteronomy 13: 3-4. That text refers to: “If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder...” Such texts have nothing — zero, zip, nada — to do with our understandings of natural science. As for the media, academia & politicians (Democrats all), of course, that’s a very different story.
You mischaracterized his statement. Immediately after the 56:00 mark, he paused while awaing the commpletion of the applause, and then said, “I’m just going to finish up.” He finished up with the quote from Deuteronomy.
I would have preferred John 8:44, but Deut 13:3-4 was more than appropriate.
Me. Kalamata
Kalamata:
"You were smug.
I believe you characterized his lecture as a “rabbit hole”." I don't do "smug", that's your bailiwick.
Your video was a 58 minute rabbit hole which provided no useful information except what amounted to an advertisement for job openings in the research field of abiogenesis.
But, in the end Tour tried to shut down such research by claiming "some people" hyped up their results beyond what is justified.
Since, Tour tells us, those people need to be punished, he would shut down further research until they are!
That's not just a rabbit hole, it's a Black Hole (& black eye) for science.
Kalamata: "You are guessing."
You're guessing to claim that Federal dollars directly support abiogenesis research.
Kalamata: "When are you going to throw out a single pebble of evidence from that mountain you claim to exist?
Admit it.
You don’t know of any scientific evidence for evolutionism, and you are merely parrotting propaganda from the party line."
Here's what I know for certain: deniers, like Holocaust deniers, simply deny anything which contradicts their own claims.
You yourself can go & see tons of physical evidence of evolution at any natural history museum, but you won't go, and if you did go you won't see, and if you did see you'd just deny, deny, deny.
Denial is who you are, denial is what you do, facts don't matter, nothing matters to you beyond your own claims.
Kalamata: "I believe Tour was being much too lenient.
We should shut down ALL research that has been over-hyped.
That would release the taxpayer from any obligation to fund the religion of evolutionism and the big-bang."
With "over-hyped" and "religion" to be defined exclusively by Grand Inquisitor Kalamata, and the length of punishment will be set by Pope James Tour, right?
Kalamata: "Start at 54:48 for Tour’s statements on the moratorium.
No real scientist would object. He finished at 56:00."
So you skip right over the part where Tour makes his "moratorium" a punishment for the irredeemable sin of "over-hyping" science?
Kalamata: "You mischaracterized his statement.
Immediately after the 56:00 mark, he paused while awaing the commpletion of the applause, and then said, “I’m just going to finish up.” "
I accurately reported what Tour said, and more important, the impression it left.
Indeed, you yourself say Tour's punishment of science is not near strong enough, so their's no point in you denying he said it.
Kalamata: "I would have preferred John 8:44, but Deut 13:3-4 was more than appropriate."
Neither text, nor any other similar, has anything remotely to do with natural-science.
The "father of lies" are those who pretend they do, FRiend. ![]()