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To: BroJoeK; West; freedumb2003; x; aspasia; fishtank

>>Nonsense, I did listen to all of your 58 minute rabbit-hole [lecture by Dr. James Tour], and the take-aways are these:

James Tour is one of the top organic chemists in the world, if not THE top. The fact that you smugly dismissed his brilliant lecture is evidence that you are all hat and no cowboy.

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>>As of today, there’s tons more unknown than known, so lots of employment opportunities for bright young researchers.”

Yea, go right ahead, if you don’t mind throwing taxpayer dollars down a true rabbit hole, when they could be spent on the advancement of science.

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>>People who claim that their hypotheses & theories are “facts” do science more harm than good.

That is true of all who promote evolutionism, and especially those who hype “origin of life” research.

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>>In the end your speaker proposes a moratorium on further Origin of Life research, why?

Because it is a rabbit hole.

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>>Apparently, to punish those who’ve claimed life has already been created by scientists.

There is no one to punish, because no one (NO ONE) has come even close to creating so much a few of the more complicated building blocks of life. James Tour wants to stop the hype and propaganda. That is all.

Did you even watch the video?

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>>Then, I’d suppose, as soon as everybody who made such claims recants their heresies, then the research can continue.

Gibberish.

Mr. Kalamata


147 posted on 08/10/2019 5:40:26 PM PDT by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata
Kalamata: "James Tour is one of the top organic chemists in the world, if not THE top.
The fact that you smugly dismissed his brilliant lecture is evidence that you are all hat and no cowboy."

Kalamata is all about "smug", I don't do "smug".
In fact I enjoyed the lecture, it's why I listened to all 58 minutes (!) of it.
And I did hear some things I'd not heard before, but the key takeaway remains the fact that there's still vastly more we don't know than do.
That means to me there's unlikely to be an end to employment opportunities in this field.

Kalamata: "Yea, go right ahead, if you don’t mind throwing taxpayer dollars down a true rabbit hole, when they could be spent on the advancement of science."

We don't know how much Federal tax money supports origin of life research.
I suspect not very much money because to hear your man Tour tell it, there's not really very much of it going on.
Tour even claims there've been no real advances since Miller-Urey in 1952!

Kalamata on over-hyping: "That is true of all who promote evolutionism, and especially those who hype “origin of life” research."

By definition a "fact" is simply a confirmed observation, such as the globe-shaped Earth -- it was a theory, now a fact.
Evolution is a confirmed theory based on literal mountains of facts -- deny them all you wish, they still exist.

Most origin of life ideas are mere speculations, not even hypotheses, much less theories or facts.
Any honest scientist will tell you the truth about that.

Kalamata: "James Tour wants to stop the hype and propaganda. That is all.
Did you even watch the video?"

Right -- I did watch the video, all 58 minutes of it, and right, your man Tour wants to stop origin of life research to punish those who he claims have over-hyped it.
Tour's word is "moratorium" on research, until those people confess their alleged sins of claiming too much for science!

Kalamata: "Gibberish."

No! That's what he said, go back and review your own piece yourself.
I'll save you some time, start at minute ~54:50.
Tours goes straight from his moratorium to condemning over-hypers to quoting Deuteronomy 13: 3-4.
That text refers to:

Such texts have nothing -- zero, zip, nada -- to do with our understandings of natural science.
As for the media, academia & politicians (Democrats all), of course, that's a very different story.
156 posted on 08/10/2019 7:11:43 PM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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