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In Dayton, authorities search for a motive in shooting that left 9 dead
WAPO ^ | 8/4/2019 | kevin williams

Posted on 08/04/2019 8:10:16 PM PDT by bitt

DAYTON, Ohio — In the hours before the mass shooting, Connor and Megan Betts, brother and sister, drove together in the family’s 2007 Corolla to visit this city’s historic Oregon District, an area alive on a summer night with restaurants, bars and nightlife.

Then, police said, they separated.

It is not clear what the woman, 22, did at that point. But her brother, 24, donned a mask, body armor and ear protection. Wielding an “AR-15-like” weapon with magazines containing 100 rounds, he set out on a street rampage that, while it lasted only about 30 seconds, claimed the lives of nine people and injured 27 others.

Among the first to die was Megan Betts. A male companion was injured.

Many more might have died, officials said, but police patrolling the area saw people fleeing and quickly “neutralized” Connor Betts — he was shot to death — as he was about to enter a bar where dozens of people had run to hide. A bouncer was injured by shrapnel. At least six officers fired at Betts.

“As a mayor, this is a day that we all dread happening,” Dayton Mayor Nan Whaley said during a news conference Sunday morning.

The attack came less than a day after a man with a high-powered weapon killed 20 people in El Paso and a week after a gunman fired on the Gilroy Garlic Festival in California, killing three people and wounding 12.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bellbrook; connorbetts; dayton; nanwhaley; ohio; shooter
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1 posted on 08/04/2019 8:10:16 PM PDT by bitt
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To: bitt

It was the Democrats!


2 posted on 08/04/2019 8:12:18 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant.)
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To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; 2ndDivisionVet; azishot; ...

I was listening to Bill Cunningham while walking the dog -

He reported that the Dayton shooter was thrown out of high school because he had a list of girls he wanted to kill.

He also reported that the shooter told someone that he wanted to tie girls to trees and slit their throats. That person spoke with him at some length about getting help, and the shooter even admitted that he was afraid of those thoughts. That person then went to the police when the shooter never went for help, but the police did nothing.

Not sure where Bill Cunningham got this info.

AH! here it is; I am posting just the stuff we haven’t heard so far...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-dayton-authorities-search-for-a-motive-in-shooting-that-left-9-dead/2019/08/04/6bc3bd1e-b6d5-11e9-bad6-609f75bfd97f_story.html?utm_term=.759e3c27aafb

...”Among the first to die was Megan Betts. A male companion was injured.

Many more might have died, officials said, but police patrolling the area saw people fleeing and quickly “neutralized” Connor Betts — he was shot to death — as he was about to enter a bar where dozens of people had run to hide. A bouncer was injured by shrapnel. At least six officers fired at Betts.”

...”But Betts also had been troubled in high school, at one point drawing up a “hit list,” and such incidents, along with his relationship with his sister, will be points of interest for the investigators.”

“...Megan Betts was not the first person to be shot, according to police. But she and the male companion were among the earliest victims, and it appeared they were shot when Connor Betts emerged onto Fifth Street....

...Midway through Betts’s freshman year at Bellbrook High, the school became aware that he had a list of people, including classmates, whom he wanted to take “revenge” on, said Samantha Thomas, 25, who attended Bellbrook at the same time as Betts.

“It was a list of girls and all of these really pretty vile things that he was going to do to them,” Thomas said. “All the girls were really freaked out. He got kicked out of school for it.”

David Partridge, 26, who also attended Bellbrook with Betts, said the list included a member of his family. Partridge said a friend of his called the Sugarcreek Township police department to alert them to the list, and that officers later pulled Betts off a bus as he was headed to school one morning.

“I watched as they apprehended him,” Partridge said.

Bellbrook High officials could not immediately be reached for comment. Dayton police declined to comment about the list.

Also unknown is the nature of the Betts siblings’ relationship. Megan Betts had spent the past few months as a tour guide helping visitors explore the wilds of Missoula County, Mont., said her former supervisor at the Smokejumpers Visitor Center.”...


3 posted on 08/04/2019 8:12:23 PM PDT by bitt (US intel is there to protect the safety and security of Americans. It is not a political tool.)
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To: bitt
In Dayton, authorities search for a motive in shooting that left 9 dead

In Dayton, authorities search for a narrative in shooting that would pin 9 deaths on President Trump

There. Fixed it.

4 posted on 08/04/2019 8:12:44 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: bitt

Motive?

Likely that of one trying to implement an Urban Utopia.


5 posted on 08/04/2019 8:12:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: bitt

If true, he should not have passed ‘instant check’...


6 posted on 08/04/2019 8:14:08 PM PDT by northislander
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To: bitt

He was a leftist, socialist and Warren supporter yet Warren is all over the place screeching about Trump being responsible for El Paso....

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/amp/


7 posted on 08/04/2019 8:14:44 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary walks free, equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: bitt

Anybody keeping count? That’s two of Bernie’s followers in the past two years, who have killed, and injured innocent people. The other was James Hodgkinson on June 14, 2017.


8 posted on 08/04/2019 8:17:00 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: bitt

Well. those “Watch Lists” are just Sooo helpful...


9 posted on 08/04/2019 8:17:32 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: bitt

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/04/dayton-shooting-what-we-know-gunman/1916121001/

Dayton shooting: What we know about the gunman

Seventeen months ago, Moira Cofer Betts stood outside the Dublin Pub in Dayton with her son and daughter.

The three squeezed together, arm in arm, and smiled for a selfie. Betts then posted the photo to Facebook, something she did often. “I’m a very lucky mama,” she wrote in a separate post a month later.

On Sunday, both of Betts’ children were killed about a block from where they’d posed for that photo.

Her son, Connor, 24, was shot to death by police after killing nine people and injuring 27.

Her daughter, Megan, 22, was among the victims shot and killed by her brother.

Betts and her husband, Stephen, got the news within hours of the shooting. Police and FBI agents were at their home Sunday morning in the Dayton suburb of Bellbrook, searching for evidence that could help explain what happened.

“We don’t know the why, we don’t know the whats,” said Bellbrook Police Chief Doug Doherty. “But we do know that there’s a mom and dad down there that are really hurting.”

Connor and Megan drove together to Dayton’s Oregon District, an entertainment area with bars and restaurants, sometime Saturday night. Once there, they went their separate ways, police said.

The shooting started around 1 a.m. Megan was one of the first to die.

Connor did not have a serious criminal record, but some people who knew him said he’d been troubled in the past.

One classmate told The Enquirer Connor had been bullied in high school and responded by making a hit list. “He had a plan to shoot up the high school,” said Laura Wakeley, who attended Bellbrook High School with him.

Wakeley said Connor was kicked out of school after the incident but eventually was allowed to return.

Chris Baker, a former Bellbrook High School principal, was asked about the hit list appearing on a bathroom wall at the school. “I would not dispute that information,” Baker told the Dayton Daily News, declining to comment further.

Connor was a student at Sinclair Community College in Dayton, though he was not enrolled at the school for the summer.

According to his LinkedIn page, Connor’s work history included stints at Chipotle Mexican Grill and a gas station in Centerville, Ohio.


10 posted on 08/04/2019 8:18:28 PM PDT by bitt (US intel is there to protect the safety and security of Americans. It is not a political tool.)
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Sounds like a closeted homo that actually hated girls but did not know how to handle his illness.


11 posted on 08/04/2019 8:22:55 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: bitt

Conner Betts was a godless, leftist loser and exited this life as a murderer bound for hell. How much blame do the parents bare? Perhaps a ton.


12 posted on 08/04/2019 8:25:10 PM PDT by tflabo (Prince of Peace, Lion of Righteousness)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

and Crusius clearly channelled Al Gore for his manifesto:

3 Aug: DrudgeReport: Walmart Shooter Manifesto
The Inconvenient Truth
About Me
The American lifestyle affords our citizens an incredible quality of life. However, our lifestyle is destroying the environment of our country. The decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations. Corporations are heaing the destruction of our environment by shamelessly over harvesting resources...
Fresh water is being polluted from farming and oil drilling operations.
Consumer culture is creating thousands of tons of unnecessary plastic waste and electronic waste, and recycling to help slow this down is almost non-existent...

We even use god knows how many trees worth of paper towels just wipe water off our hands. Everything I have seen and heard in my short life has led me to believe that the average American isn’t willing to change their lifestyle, even if the changes only cause a slight inconvenience. The government is unwilling to tackle these issues beyond empty promises since they are owned by corporations...

I just want to say that I love the people of this country, but god damn most of y’all are just too stubborn to change your lifestyle. So the next logical step is to decrease the number of people in America using resources. If we can get rid of enough people, then our way of life can become more sustainable...
https://drudgereport.com/flashtx.htm

the media is not reporting the environmental stuff, and are not linking to the manifesto either. a thread discussing it was posted earlier on FR - check out a reply re David Attenborough:

3 Aug Tweets: Bill BLack
The manifesto is not the ravings of a madman or a brainwashed kid. It’s what millions of Americans believe...
His logic is, so far as fascist logic goes, impeccable.
1. Our devastation of the environment means we cannot live at our current standard of living indefinitely.
2. One solution is uber-Green New Deal post-scarcity socialism. America can afford it. The political will for it is growing every year. And it will attract ever more immigrants as the global South warms.
3. He is unwilling to accept this, and is afraid the time is running out to prevent it. So the other solution is to preserve our standard of living—by decreasing our population.
Ecofascism is a much graver threat than climate change denial, folks...
I understand the impulse to suppress the dissemination of the manifesto, but I actually believe it is important to understanding the crisis at hand. And nearly all of it could be said out loud on national TV and be accepted as part of the discourse...
https://twitter.com/williamrblack/status/1158046534484799488


13 posted on 08/04/2019 8:25:21 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: bitt

He had a magazine with 100 rounds? I didn’t think those were legal. How did he get it?


14 posted on 08/04/2019 8:26:32 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: doorgunner69

“The girls laughed at me”...whine......


15 posted on 08/04/2019 8:38:39 PM PDT by bitt (US intel is there to protect the safety and security of Americans. It is not a political tool.)
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To: virgil

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQYeA7jxX-RXtSF3OMSPKL6BPKdMBaDfbVKhK8LvAWLRPfEMv6wA


16 posted on 08/04/2019 8:50:00 PM PDT by bitt (US intel is there to protect the safety and security of Americans. It is not a political tool.)
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To: virgil

Drum mag. They’re legal. Not cheap, but legal. He must have made good money serving those ptomaine platters at Chipotle to buy one of those.


17 posted on 08/04/2019 8:52:59 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: bitt
Connor and Megan drove together to Dayton’s Oregon District, an entertainment area with bars and restaurants, sometime Saturday night. Once there, they went their separate ways, police said.

Megan must have met her boyfriend after they arrived at the Oregon District. Wonder if she knew that Connor had the weapon/vest/magazines in the car?

18 posted on 08/04/2019 9:05:58 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: bitt

Ur gonna drive yourself crazy trying to figure out the mind of a crazy person


19 posted on 08/04/2019 9:22:26 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Ben Hecks

Connor and Megan drove together to Dayton’s Oregon District, an entertainment area with bars and restaurants, sometime Saturday night. Once there, they went their separate ways, police said.
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Megan must have met her boyfriend after they arrived at the Oregon District. Wonder if she knew that Connor had the weapon/vest/magazines in the car?
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SPECULATION: Connor and his sister left their house with Connor driving. The weapon(s) were in the trunk, unknown to Megan. They picked up Megan’s boyfriend and drove to the Oregon District. When they parked Connor told the others to go ahead and he would catch up. Once they left, Connor retrieved his ballistic jacket and weapons from the trunk and proceeded on foot to do his evil.


20 posted on 08/04/2019 9:25:19 PM PDT by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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