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Majority of House Democrats now say they support starting an impeachment inquiry (upd. 2:43 pm EST)
CNN ^ | Aug. 2, 2019 | Clare Foran and Ashley Killough

Posted on 08/02/2019 12:01:10 PM PDT by Innovative

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To: nwrep
Most of the CBS allegations are either the President exercising his lawful Article II powers, or the President exercising executive and client-attorney privileges.

By CBS's standard, anybody who pleads "not guilty" is by definition obstructing justice. Declaring one's innocence, questioning the motives of those who declare one guilty, and making it difficult for them to prove their case is not obstructing justice, it's routine for the adversarial process.

-PJ

41 posted on 08/02/2019 1:01:10 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Innovative
Majority of House Democrats now say they support starting an impeachment inquiry (upd. 2:43 pm EST)
They and their donors are scared shitless. Their donors are demanding it.

They're all Koch heads...hooked on Koch.

42 posted on 08/02/2019 1:06:00 PM PDT by lewislynn (The Democrats are all Koch heads, hooked on Koch.)
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To: Innovative

House Democrats have always been in favor of an impeachment inquiry, which would be nothing new - nothing but a continuation of the dishonest and toothless grandstanding that has persisted ad nauseam since the 2016 election.

Whether or not they will ever call a formal vote to impeach - that is what is in doubt. Doing so would be risky - the vote could well fail in the House - and even if it passed - it would force the Senate to vote on whether or not to remove - a vote the Democrats would lose badly.

When the Senate responds to a House impeachment vote, and decides not to remove - it is seen by the public as a repudiation of the House’s impeachment decision - similar to the Supreme Court overturning a lower court’s ruling.

It is very bad politics - a humiliation that any smart Democrats want to avoid.

They will continue talking about impeachment, threatening impeachment, considering impeachment, inquiring into impeachment, talking about threatening to consider inquiring into impeachment. But I doubt they will ever call a formal vote.


43 posted on 08/02/2019 2:18:04 PM PDT by enumerated
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To: Innovative

“A majority of House Democrats are now on record publicly supporting an impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump, according to a CNN count.”

And a majority of Americans are in favor of American-style Nuremberg trials against the Nazi propaganda press.


44 posted on 08/02/2019 3:56:24 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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When the dems actually get “concrete” offensives for impeachment, then the rules and boundaries are set. Then all of the Hillary docs can be released within this framework and then she can reasonably be prosecuted upon the stage the dems have said is absolutely true. No wiggle room. The definitions are set and they will ensnare her fat a$$.


45 posted on 08/02/2019 10:31:48 PM PDT by Texaspeptoman (Even cannibals... get fed up with people sometimes.)
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To: Innovative

You can smell the desperation and fear rolling off them as they realize that this is probably their best hat trick and it is doomed except to get the LSM to air a bunch more of their lies and rhetoric that nobody believes anyway...


46 posted on 08/03/2019 2:53:47 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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I finally understand why the Democrats have a drunk donkey as their mascot.

47 posted on 08/03/2019 6:44:01 AM PDT by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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To: Innovative

Panic


48 posted on 08/03/2019 6:51:24 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.Doesn't matteC. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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To: nwrep

Who are you, and what have you done with the real nwrep?


49 posted on 08/03/2019 8:06:49 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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Buh-bye, Peloousy. Thanks Innovative.

50 posted on 08/03/2019 8:55:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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What is his crime? He’s a meanie?

He fights back and defends himself against their leftist abuse. They can't stand that. They're used to Republicans meekly submitting.
51 posted on 08/03/2019 9:09:20 AM PDT by Deo volente ("Paging Mr. Charles Martel. Please pick up the white courtesy phone.")
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To: Innovative

CNN wants impeachment to save their ratings.


52 posted on 08/03/2019 10:35:47 AM PDT by Fedora
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53 posted on 08/03/2019 10:55:08 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

How hard is it to believe that Trump fought tooth and nail to block the Deep state from prying information out of his administration? Well, fighting the deep state tooth and nail during the conduct of this investigation is obstruction of justice, at least according to the way the investigators characterize it, whether we like it or not.


54 posted on 08/04/2019 8:24:49 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep
Saying that what Trump did is "obstruction of justice", in a legal sense, is not what the Mueller Report (even with the biased Mueller team driving) concluded. Mueller testified that he was allowed to conclude his investigation "unencumbered."

Suppose I wanted to convince the world that you are guilty of fraud (I do not believe you are guilty). I see that "misrepresentation" is a synonym. I find something you posted somewhere that contained an error. I wrongly accuse you of fraud. Since you have posted on a conservative forum, the media and Twitter universe repeat my claim.

You may honestly believe that Trump is guilty of "obstruction of justice," but if so, why would you try to convince FR readers? You might have more success elsewhere. But even some relatively sane "progressives" realize that, unless real evidence appears, that that charge is nonsense.

Aaron Mate and Jimmy Dore are good examples.

55 posted on 08/04/2019 10:03:52 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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I am not convinced he is guilty of OOJ. I agree with the stance taken by Mate and Dore. I am simply pointing out the allegations. Mueller’s statements are contradictory. He says what you indicated below, but he also says there were instances of non-cooperation and obstruction. He is not willing to say “there was no OOJ”, just that it was decided that a charge to that effect will not be pursued. I think we ought to appreciate the maddening nuances of the report and acknowledge them.


56 posted on 08/04/2019 10:56:10 AM PDT by nwrep
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I partly agree, but “not exonerated” is not a legal term, and really not in Mueller’s “purview.” Somebody made that up and somebody put it in his report. It’s really a political smear and not necessary to emphasize it and repeat it incessantly.


57 posted on 08/04/2019 11:30:28 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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To: Innovative

EDT

Why are time zones so hard?


58 posted on 08/04/2019 11:31:13 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: Innovative
STILL WAITING TO HEAR CHARGES FOR "HIGH CRIMES OR MISDEMEANORS". Have I missed a specific charge or a specific resolution? Treason is not an option for the deranged dem-socs.

Feel free to use my new term above for democratic socialist. DEM-SOCS or DIM-SOCS or ?

59 posted on 08/06/2019 8:57:26 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Also LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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