Posted on 08/02/2019 4:29:05 AM PDT by marktwain
U.S.A. –-(Ammoland.com)- There have been startling developments in the investigation of the disastrous no-knock raid in Houston on 28 January 2019. A middle-aged couple was killed and four police wounded. In the light of contradictory police stories, the family of the couple who died hired an independent forensics firm to document the evidence at the home at 7815 Harding Street. The independent investigation took place after forensic data collection done by the local government authorities.
The independent investigators invited the Texas Rangers and the Harris County Institute for Forensic Science to attend the investigation. Both declined the invitation. The independent investigation findings were released on 14 May 2019. On 24 July 2019, family attorney Mike Doyle presented the findings in court.
Rhogena Nicholas, was a supporter of President Trump. Her husband, Dennis Tuttle was a Navy veteran. They had no criminal records. They lived in their home in Houston for 20 years and were married for the same 20 years.
A narcotics investigator, Officer Goines, obtained a warrant to raid their home. According to Police Chief Acevedo and abc13.com, on 13 February 2019, the warrant was based on lies.
“We know that a crime has been committed. It's a serious crime,” said Acevedo, who is referring to clear lies in the original warrant. “When we go into someone's home, which is the sanctity in someone's home, it has to be truthful. It has to be honest. It has to be absolutely factual. So, we know there's a crime that's been committed. There's a high probability
(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...
You cannot block the sewer where I live.
If that is because you don’t have one, think about it. Everything you flush goes straight into the septic tank which is on your property.
“And I DON”T want to hear any of this “few bad apples” BS. Goins and LE criminals like him have been carrying on for decades. In all that time, have they NEVER encountered one of those “good cops” that saw them for the criminals they are and pursued protecting the citizenry from their criminal acts? If not, then the “good cops” are truly a myth.
Do I hate cops and want to see them killed? No.
But I have to admit that after the last forty or so years of seeing LEO treat the citizenry with an “Us against them” mentality, I am quite ambivalent to their plight.”
This ^^^^. The thin blue line has always represented the division between themselves and the rest of us, not between the criminals and us.
Of the last 109 cases where Officer Goines swore out search warrants, all made claims of guns, but no guns were recorded as having been seized.... The independent forensic report claims she was killed by bullets fired through the wall of the home, where the person firing could not have seen her.
One or more of those officers need to be in prison and released into general population.
Sheriff Andy Griffin of Mayberry is long dead.
Could Houston PD have their own serial killer? Get his jollies from killing people and steal their weapons to be used on other victims. The feds need to go back through unsolved murders.
"The competence of the official local forensic investigators is questionable, if they left 10 bullets and two human teeth, at the scene, to be recovered by independent forensic investigators."
IMHo, that indicates that there was a conclusion reached in advance of the forensic team going to work and when they had what they thought would make the case that the incident went down the way the officers wanted it written up they stopped.
I don't think simply yelling "police" should suffice, either. Yelling something while crashing in and "clearing" a room with a drawn weapon (at best) is such a chaotic moment that a reasonable person may not even hear the word yelled out.
I lived in NYC back then...there WAS NO Sheriff Andy there...never was.
Honestly, this has to be one of the worst police actions I have seen in a long time. Probably since they killed LaVoy in Oregon. Here are some excerpts for those who do not have time to read the ammoland story.
“The exact timing of events is uncertain because no officers wore body cameras. Surveillance video from the house next door was confiscated by the police. Houston Police have refused to release the 911 calls.”
But, oops, they didn’t confiscate everything.....
“The independent investigators were able to recover a cell phone video of the event. The most provocative evidence claimed from the video, is two shots were fired almost 30 minutes after the raid started. The investigators claim it was shortly after those shots were fired, the police at the scene said that “Both suspects were down”. The private investigators found evidence that two shots were fired inside the home, into the back wall of the dining room, from very close range, contrary to police versions of the event”
Two shots, 30 mins after the raid started, followed by suspects down? Holes in wall from close range? Was this couple killed in cold blood?
And just in case you believe this was all just a mix up, and that the officers were doing their level best, we have this, from the leading officer.
“Goines swore in search warrant affidavits that “knocking and announcing would be dangerous, futile,” because he claimed a confidential informant had seen a gun inside. Those claims led judges to grant no-knock warrants, which accounted for 96 percent of all the search warrants he filed in the last seven years, a KHOU 11 Investigation has found.
But in every one of the more than 100 drug cases based off those warrants, there’s no record of Goines ever seizing a gun after executing a no-knock search warrant.”
Following this travesty of justice, we hear from the department. The gall of these people is just amazing. Remember, they were at the wrong house, had just murdered an American citizen along with his wife and dog.
“Enough is enough. If you’re the ones out there spreading the rhetoric that police officers are the enemy, well just know we’ve all got your number now,” Gamaldi said. “We’re going to be keeping track on all of y’all, and we’re going to make sure to hold you accountable every time you stir the pot on our police officers.”
This sounds an awful lot like a threat. We are above the law due to our badges. If you question us, we will hunt you down. Great way to bring the people and the police together!
And last, but certainly not least, we see signs of officers playing soldier. They actually use the term “laying down covering fire”.
“No officers wore body cameras. Shortly after the raid, Chief Acevedo spoke of officers “laying down covering fire”. We do not know how many rounds were fired by police, or where, or aimed at who. From abc13.com on January 30th, 2019:
“After we had two officers down and another shot, the remaining officers … started laying down cover fire, left positions of cover themselves and, I believe, they heroically pulled their fellow officers out of harm’s way,” Acevedo said.”
If you go back in time on this site, you will see many freepers that were all for the police on this one. That these scum drug dealers deserved what they got. That if police batter down your door, you do not have the right to defend yourself. It was very disheartening to read and be in discussions with.
Here is a quote I found during the initial raid time frame. It sums up these no knock raids perfectly.
“Police-state style assault forces being used to violently enter a persons residence when that person is not actively engaged in violent acts are incompatible with life in a free society.
As it is better a hundred guilty go free than one innocent person be imprisoned. So too is it better a hundred guilty destroy evidence of their guilt than one innocent person’s life be risked or worse ended by an extremely violent breach of the peace initiated by agents of the State.”
Two innocent people and their dog murdered, and what happens now...?
I’m going to generalize here and say that not much is going to happen unless their is a revival of what it meants to be a public servant. I have only done a cursory study of the issue through the numerous postings on FreeRepublic of no knock raids with disasterous results for the innocent. One disasterous raid would be too many. More than one indicates a serious problem.
A serious problem that has been around since SWAT itself and doesn’t appear to be going anywhere near a solution. SWAT needs to go. No knock raids need to go. There appears to be far too little care and concern by the police taken with their actions whether open confrontation on the street, or the no knock option. When the innocent are killed, in the normal performance of duty, by the servants of the people WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM.
I contend that much of the violence against the police is self caused by the numerous fatal mistakes by the police without the punishment those mistakes should garner. With the reputation of the entire police structure at risk, it would seem to require much more interest in reducing those mistakes and punishing the people who make them.
A big part of those ideas would be to eliminate some of the structure that often overplays it’s hand SWAT for one, and the idea that the police are no longer servants of the people but guard dogs who are more worthy of returning home at the end of the shift than the people who pay their salaries. I don’t see the police in general as I have written here, but certain groups of the populace do and making certain the hands of the public servants are clean, would go a long way to preventing much of the violence on both sides.
It sounds like a clear case of Murder to me.
Wow. Threats that seem to justify claims that they are the enemy.
Interesting link from article.
Motion to depose Houston Police:
No, we have a sewage system. But how it is accessed with each home is independent of the city. There is no common practice way to block the sewer.
I have a cleanout outside my home, but it is almost hidden by brick work of prior owner. Many homes have no cleanout in the line. The only way to access it is from inside the house.
The town is currently 600 people. At an earlier time there were 1,200 people.
Fly over country. At my house at the farm we have 2 septic tanks as you suggested.
“..says he’s a liar and no warrant he issued was valid...”
And there are still two dead innocent folks.
When police break into the wrong house, its actually a felony crime. While armed. Its a home invasion. I have no problem with innocent homeowners rightly believing they are experiencing a home invasion, they most certainly are, and attempting to defend themselves.
Now, it seems the crime scene investigation was very sloppy.
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Sloppy isn’t a “bug” it’s a feature... helps muddy the investigative waters .. might save a lying POS cop from prosecution. This is why I have almost no respect for law enforcement ,, even the ones that aren’t crooked will do what they can to protect the bad ones because all that matters to them is that big retirement package and they don’t want to rock the boat.
Yup,
He wasn’t letting Comey off, the articles all said Comey was handed over for prosecution but not on the charge of leaking classified memos. This is propably because it was Comey himself who made the memos, his own recollections, ‘classified,’ and not the FBI or another official. Comey may yet be nailed on other things, such as lying on the FISA forms, lying under oath, exposing US or allied human assets for personal purposes, or for serving as an agent of a foreign power.
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That is a little bit encouraging. So thanks.
In all honesty I can not see how they (Barr & Co.) could possibly let all this stuff slide. You want to see the Trump supporters just say “WTF? Why even bother?” and not show up at the polls?
But ......... we have become something of a banana republic.
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