Posted on 07/28/2019 4:05:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Edited on 07/28/2019 4:19:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Rove, you fat Rat bastard !
I read about this weeks ago here but it takes longer to get further.
Message to Mr Rove:
Yes we know Karl, you have been “unaware” of many things for a long time.
After GWBush left office, I commented to you, in comments on some WSJ on editorials you wrote, that the best thing for you and the GOP would be for you to go away. So again, please, just go away.
He has opened a can of worms with unending consequences for the Democrats and especially for Black America. When this is carried on and on, only a black dolt will vote democrat.
It is now politically correct to pile on everything black that is politically bad.
Political correctness is out the window
Cue the fat white guy and all the race pimps. Make them defend the horrific conditions of their cities and their theft of funds meant for the poor folks.
Brilliant classic Trump.
They don’t make up the bulk of FOX News shows - Two don’t have their own shows and one has only an afternoon show - hardly prime time. Easy to ignore them. From 7 pm to after 12 pm, who would you call “on the left?”
Did you guys see this Vanity Fair article about Rove and Trump (and Pence)?
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/07/the-odd-couple-marriage-between-mike-pence-and-donald-trump
Karl Rove says of Bush winning West Virginia: Bob Dole had lost it by 15 points four years earlier. The last time it had gone for Republicans in an open-seat presidential race was 1928, and it took nominating a New York Catholic to bring all the Methodists and Presbyterians and Baptists out of the hills and hollows of West Virginia to vote Republican.
I couldn’t believe it when I read this.
Karl Rove, who gets paid to do this, didn’t know that West Va was prior to the depression a Republican leaning state? Carried by the GOP in 7 of the 8 elections prior to 1928? Including 1924 when the Democratic nominee was FROM WEST VIRGINIA!!! And that therefore Hoover winning the state was unremarkable and that indeed he only lost it by 10 points 4 years later when FDR was kicking his ass?
I know I’m an electoral history nerd but....this dude practically wrote (or maybe even did write) a book about McKinley and 1896 being a realigning election. That’s the election when West VA went (back) to the GOP!
Was he deliberately misleading Trump about his prowess (”look at me I flipped West VA which NEVER went Republican before”)?
Tokyo Rove is an idiot.
When WV was formed as a state, it really was only Unionist Republican for a brief 8-year period (1863-1871). By 1875, the Dems took effective control of the state (all the House and Senate seats, although there was an Independent Democrat Governor). Only one Republican would win at a regular election in the northernmost 1st (the legendary Nathan Goff, Jr.) in the House, and had the Governorship stolen from him in 1888 (the Dems also stole two of the 5 House seats, which were later awarded to the GOP after investigations).
The post-Reconstruction realignment election in WV was in 1894, the anti-Dem midterm backlash against Cleveland. They swept the legislature and elected a GOP Senator for the first time since 1869 and they handily won all 4 House seats.
Although the Dems had occasional wins and did better than usual in the 1910s, the state was effectively and reliably Republican from 1894-1932. The GOP had only occasional wins beginning again in 1938 and in 1946 managed to take 4 out of 6 House seats. Ike’s disastrous effect on the GOP in 1958 prevented the state from trending back again (both Senate seats, one held by an elected GOP incumbent and appointed member both fell to the Dems) and Watergate stopped the GOP from taking back a State House majority by 1974.
I would’ve called the state reliably Dem from 1932-2014 when they finally won a Senate seat, all 3 House seats and the legislature. Despite Justice’s party switch, however, the GOP hasn’t technically won the Governorship since Cecil Underwood’s remarkable 40-year comeback in 1996 and hasn’t reelected a Republican since 1972 (with Arch Moore). Moore should’ve run against Sen. Jennings Randolph that year instead, and probably could’ve held the seat for the next 24 years.
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