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Parkland school gunman was searched every morning at Stoneman Douglas
Sun-Sentinel ^
| 7/26/19
| By Megan O'Matz
Posted on 07/26/2019 10:06:21 AM PDT by NohSpinZone
The former student who later shot up Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School was such a threat in school that he was searched every morning for weapons, new testimony shows.
The extraordinary measure followed an earlier decision to bar Nikolas Cruz from taking a backpack to campus after he talked of suicide and wrote kill in a notebook.
The search procedure was revealed in a sworn deposition from Kelvin Greenleaf, the security guard who searched Cruz. The South Florida Sun Sentinel obtained a copy of the deposition this week.
"Never found a weapon on him, Greenleaf explained in the testimony July 11. I think we got concerned when, I think, we found out he drank bleach, tried to hurt himself or something like that, the kid. Thats when we started, like, having the kid come in every morning to be searched by me, but never found a weapon on the kid, never.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; florida; parkland; pnikolascruz; shooting; stonemandouglas
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Failure at so many levels. Nobody could say that they didn't see this coming.
I hate to be this blunt but the tragedy is that this monster didn't manage to off himself as he threatened to do so many times.
To: NohSpinZone
It’s a shame that he didn’t off that cowardly cop just before offing himself!
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posted on
07/26/2019 10:13:11 AM PDT
by
Beagle8U
(It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
To: Beagle8U
"Its a shame that he didnt off that cowardly cop just before offing himself!"
I don't think he offed himself. Wasn't he arrested?
To: NohSpinZone
02.14.19
![Heres a list of gun control laws passed since the Parkland shooting]()
[Photo: Flickr user
Fibonacci Blue]
Thursday marks the first anniversary of the deadly shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, where 17 students and school employees were killed. Since then, a number of gun control laws have been passed across the country, mostly at the state level. The following laws are among them:
- Florida passed the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Act in the wake of the shooting. It raised the age to purchase guns to 21 from 18, banned people legally judged “mentally defective” from buying a gun, and set up a system for law enforcement to take guns from people deemed a threat to themselves or others. The law also banned bump stocks, used in the 2017 mass shooting in Las Vegas. Bump stocks make semi-automatic weapons function like automatic guns so that they fire without the need to repeatedly press the trigger.
- The federal government later effectively banned bump stocks nationwide, with a regulation signed by acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker requiring most gun owners to destroy or turn in the devices by March 26.
- Washington State voters approved Initiative 1639 in the November 2018 elections. As the Seattle Times reported, the new law requires anyone buying a semi-automatic rifle to be 21, pass a beefed-up background check, have taken a mandatory training class, and wait 10 business days to get the gun. It also allows gun owners to be charged with “community endangerment” if guns are not locked up and a child or someone not allowed to have them commits a crime with them or brandishes them in public.
- Vermont enacted new laws limiting gun sales to people under 21, capping gun magazine sizes, and restricting person-to-person gun transfers without background checks.
- New Jersey passed a series of gun legislation banning armor-piercing ammunition, limiting magazine sizes to 10 rounds, allowing guns to be temporarily seized if the owner is deemed dangerous, requiring background checks for private gun sales, and funding a gun violence research center at Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey.
- California passed laws banning people convicted of domestic violence and people put on involuntary court psychiatric holds twice in a year from owning guns. The state also now requires that gun buyers be 21. Finally, it mandated training before people could receive concealed-carry permits.
- Louisiana created a mechanism to seize guns from domestic abusers who are banned from having them. The state also allowed guns up to the property lines of schools and colleges, removed a training requirement before bringing guns into houses of worship, and legalized switchblades.
- New York earlier this year passed a series of new gun laws, restricting guns in schools (including effectively banning teachers from carrying weapons on the job), providing funding for local gun buy-back programs, and allowing court orders that ban at-risk people from having guns. It also allowed longer waiting periods after inconclusive pre-purchase background checks.
- In total, 11 states passed laws in 2018 that restrict gun access to people linked to domestic violence, and eight states, plus the District of Columbia, created ways to temporarily keep guns from dangerous or “at risk” people, according to data from the Giffords Law Center, a gun control advocacy group.
To: NohSpinZone
Was he bullied by the other students?
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posted on
07/26/2019 10:16:07 AM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
To: NohSpinZone
They knew that he was a threat. And they subjected all the kids and my daughter to this. Where were their rights?Freaks have rights but normal folk don't. The parents may not have known about this procedure but you can bet all the students knew. Parents would be shocked to know how many dangerous sickos are in their kids' classrooms who are monitored and followed around all day by school officials. Of course, the school can't do anything about them because state law won't let them. Most times, the school's hands are tied.
So, who frisked him that morning? Gee, you don't think kids are smart enough to hide contraband before the pat downs?
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posted on
07/26/2019 10:18:26 AM PDT
by
bgill
To: NohSpinZone
The problem here is that after having recognized the threat Cruz posed, there was no policy or willingness to keep him away from the school.
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posted on
07/26/2019 10:19:11 AM PDT
by
G Larry
(There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
To: BenLurkin
My guess is that he likely was.
But then he murdered a bunch of people, so that makes him a far greater bully in the end.
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posted on
07/26/2019 10:21:31 AM PDT
by
chris37
(Monday, March 25 2019 is Maga Day!)
To: BenLurkin
Yes, say the reports. He was bullied. But he was already showing signs of neurosis and paranoia. Kids pick up on those who seem afraid of everything, so they either keep their distance, or they tease that person.
Bottom line is, if you need to search a student for weapons every school morning, then he does not belong at that school.
You can bet all of his classmates knew about it, thus deepening the tension and isolation.
His younger brother should have no contact with the shooter for a few years. Still too impressionable.
We all know that no amount of money will ever be enough to “compensate/punish” for these murders. But people being what they are; and contingency fee lawyers (most of whom are not entirely human to begin with) needing to earn a buck ....
I am still predicting two possible outcomes:
1) Total damages awarded by the courts will be in the $500 million to $2 billion range
2) State of Florida will somehow bail out the county and school board via some legislative maneuver/s.
This is so sickening - it was not only predictable.
It was engineered to fail spectacularly.
To: BenLurkin
Was he bullied by the other students?He did the bullying, he shot them.
To: NohSpinZone
Evidently he disregarded the Gun Free Zone sign and the Zero Tolerance school policy.
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posted on
07/26/2019 10:27:50 AM PDT
by
immadashell
(Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
To: JonPreston
[[plus the District of Columbia, created ways to temporarily keep guns from dangerous or at risk people,]]
HOPEFULLY there is an OBJECTIVE Criteria for determining who is an ‘at risk’ or dangerous person- in other words- hopefully there is a clear cut defining of who is dangerous- and not soemone’s subjective opinions-
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posted on
07/26/2019 10:29:24 AM PDT
by
Bob434
To: JonPreston; chris37; lee martell
Did he shoot the bullies? Or just kids at random?
And had any of the so-called “Parkland survivors’ bullied him?
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posted on
07/26/2019 10:31:03 AM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
To: JonPreston
The biggest threat to gun owners however is the unconstitutional ‘red flag laws’ which violate due process- all someone has to do to get someone else’s guns taken away is file a complaint and say the person is in their opinion, ‘dangerous’- and police go and immediately remove guns from that person without due process-
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posted on
07/26/2019 10:31:06 AM PDT
by
Bob434
To: NohSpinZone
Definitive proof that progressives/liberals and their bereft ideology kills children! What a shocker! Color me amazed! By banning progressives/liberals, if we can save just one life wouldn’t it be worth it?
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posted on
07/26/2019 10:31:28 AM PDT
by
DonPaulJonesII
(This time our enemy is in every state, county, city, neighborhood and home.)
To: DonPaulJonesII
Ban liberal ideology! Do it to save the children! Children good! Liberals bad! Why do liberals hate children?
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posted on
07/26/2019 10:34:49 AM PDT
by
DonPaulJonesII
(This time our enemy is in every state, county, city, neighborhood and home.)
To: circlecity
“I don’t think he offed himself.”
Yup, but that was what was a shame.
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posted on
07/26/2019 10:40:24 AM PDT
by
Beagle8U
(It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
To: G Larry
“...there was no policy or willingness to keep him away from the school.”
It is very hard today to expel a kid from school. Schools are required to provide an education to anyone under 18 (21 if they are “handicapped”). Handicapped includes mental illnesses. His talking suicide and writing ‘KILL’ just means he was entitled to extra services from the school district. Had his parents made an issue of it, the daily searching could have been objected to.
I heard of one case where a student threatened to set fire to the school. By the time it was finished, the district was required to pay to send him to a boarding school where he could be closely supervised.
The rules public schools are required by law to follow become exceptionally bizarre. “Handicapped” students, those with IEPs (Individual Educational Program) get first priority when it comes to spending a district’s money. If a regular classroom teacher has to be let go to provide for aides for a handicapped child, so be it.
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posted on
07/26/2019 10:47:14 AM PDT
by
hanamizu
To: NohSpinZone
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posted on
07/26/2019 10:47:45 AM PDT
by
OttawaFreeper
("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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