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New Zealand Encounters Problems Enforcing Gun Ban without Registration
Ammoland ^ | 16 July, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/18/2019 10:24:43 AM PDT by marktwain

New Zealand attempted controls on firearms ownership from 1845 to 1885. It was not very effective.  From 1885 to 1912, the arms control law was generally a dead letter. From 1912 to 1945 arms control was again attempted, primarily as a means of preventing revolution. From 1945 to 1965, there was again a peaceful enjoyment of firearms with few controls in New Zealand. There were registration controls on the books, but they proved ineffective. Because of increasing crime rates, from the middle 1960's to 1983, the New Zealand police struggled with the ineffective registration system.  The information was obtained from the 1997 study of its gun control history.

The study found that seminal work done by Inspector Colin Greenwood in the first-ever academic study of the effect of gun control in England and Wales, published by Cambridge University, was well received in New Zealand in 1982.

New Zealand abandoned firearms registration for most guns in 1983, after police found gun registration was expensive to administer and ineffective in solving crimes.  From wikipedia:

An internal police report in 1982 criticised the proposals, saying there was no evidence that registration of guns helped to solve crimes, and that registration would use time and money better spent on other police work. This policy was adopted by the government in the 1983 Act.

A summation of the 1982 report can be found at rkba.org.

In 1988 Josh Sugarman of the Violence Policy Center advocated pushing for gun control of semi-automatic rifles, as the push for control of handguns had

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; belongsinbloggers; clickbait; confiscation; newzealand; nra; registration; secondamendment
New Zealand finds that mass confiscations, to be effective, need a registration list.

They don't have it.

1 posted on 07/18/2019 10:24:43 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Gun control is always intended to prevent revolution!


2 posted on 07/18/2019 10:30:13 AM PDT by Junk Silver ("It's a little hard to herd people onto trains when they're shooting at you." SirLurkedalot)
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To: marktwain

And why we never should.


3 posted on 07/18/2019 10:32:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent...)
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To: marktwain

Back when all this confiscation chatter started up....this problem was uttered a few times. But the top folks with authority just skip over it, and go to a pretending stage that folks will cooperate or ‘else’.

There might be a couple hundred around the island who played into this. But I suspect by the beginning of 2020...95-percent of affected guns will still be in the arms of owners.


4 posted on 07/18/2019 10:33:06 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: marktwain

Jacinda Ardern will be History before they get their List


5 posted on 07/18/2019 10:33:37 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: marktwain

Exactly why gun registration should not happen.


6 posted on 07/18/2019 10:34:45 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: marktwain

Bumper Sticker from my youth, First Registration, then Confiscation.

As true 60 Years ago as it is today.


7 posted on 07/18/2019 10:35:19 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Socialism is a gateway Ideology.)
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To: Junk Silver
Gun control is always intended to prevent revolution!

Perhaps in part.

My investigations of the extreme gun control instituted in Australia, in 1997, was that it was virtue signaling by a bunch people afflicted with hoplophobia.

Australian politicians, Media, and academics, took out their collective angst about guns against rural Australians.

Pushed by globalist gurus such as Soros.

8 posted on 07/18/2019 10:35:58 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

Nice pic. Where’s her burka?


9 posted on 07/18/2019 10:38:38 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Her burka is in the closet.


10 posted on 07/18/2019 10:49:31 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: BenLurkin

“...Nice pic. Where’s her burka?...”
I didn’t think guys wore burkas.


11 posted on 07/18/2019 10:49:38 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: metmom

Isn’t Chuck Schumer on tape referring to background checks as registration?


12 posted on 07/18/2019 10:51:17 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: marktwain

I won’t go to N.J. or Illinois due to their stoopid anti gun crap/
New Zealand? Not ever going to get my tourista dollars.


13 posted on 07/18/2019 11:14:29 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Molon Labe' baby, Molon Labe)
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To: Kickass Conservative

The sticker I remember from my youth was “Register Communists, Not Guns.”

Still works today.


14 posted on 07/18/2019 11:28:08 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Two more...

The only good Commie is a dead Commie.

Kill a Commie for your Mommy.


15 posted on 07/18/2019 11:41:32 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Socialism is a gateway Ideology.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

First Registration, then Confiscation, then Extermination.


16 posted on 07/18/2019 11:43:33 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Junk Silver
Gun control is always intended to prevent revolution!

Gun Control is "PEOPLE CONTROL"!

17 posted on 07/18/2019 12:15:36 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ('DEPLORABLE' Charter Member of The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy - and DAMN Proud of it!.)
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To: a fool in paradise

I have no idea.


18 posted on 07/18/2019 12:16:41 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: marktwain

Hard to believe Kiwis will not give up their rights just because the government said to. I can’t imagine anyone outside of Australia who would do so.


19 posted on 07/18/2019 12:38:19 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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