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House votes to hold AG Bill Barr, Wilbur Ross in criminal contempt over census dispute
CNN ^ | 07/17/2019 | By Clare Foran and Ashley Killough

Posted on 07/17/2019 8:00:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Washington (CNN)The House of Representatives voted on Wednesday to hold Attorney General William Barr and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross in criminal contempt over a dispute related to the Trump administration's efforts to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census.

The vote was 230-198, largely along party lines. Four Democrats broke with their party and voted against the resolution. One independent -- Rep. Justin Amash of Michigan -- supported the resolution.

The vote marks the first time that the full House has voted on criminal contempt of Trump administration officials since Democrats took over the majority. The move is virtually guaranteed to further inflame hostilities between the administration and House Democrats as they pursue oversight efforts. It is unclear, however, what practical impact the House contempt vote will have since a US attorney is not likely to take action against the head of their own Justice Department.

The latest escalation in tensions between House Democrats and the administration comes after the House Oversight Committee approved a resolution last month recommending that the House find Barr and Ross in contempt "for refusal to comply with subpoenas" issued as part of the panel's investigation into the push to include a question about citizenship in the upcoming census.

After the Supreme Court last month blocked the question from being added to the census, Trump created uncertainty over what would happen when he insisted that efforts to add the question were "absolutely moving forward" despite statements from both his Department of Justice and secretary of commerce that the administration was printing the census without the question. But at the end of last week, Trump retreated, instead asking government agencies to provide records that could determine a head-count of citizens without polling census-takers directly.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: billbarr; congress; contempt; wilburross; yesweknow
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OK, riddle me this -- If you are held in contempt of court, you go to jail. This we know.

Exactly what does being held in contempt of congress do to you?

Both then AG Eric Holder and IRS Director Lois Lerner were held in contempt of congress.... what then?

Lerner still has her fat 6 figure pension and Eric Holder is still FREE giving his five figure speeches.

1 posted on 07/17/2019 8:00:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Does the Senate have to agree?


2 posted on 07/17/2019 8:01:14 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s becoming a real Welstone funeral over there in the House isn’t it?


3 posted on 07/17/2019 8:01:59 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Get your houses in order.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a power they granted themselves. I don’t think you’ll find it in the constitution.


4 posted on 07/17/2019 8:03:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: SeekAndFind

the House continues to make great and greater and greater fools of themselves

its really amazing just how crazy these congress=critters are!

super-nuts!


5 posted on 07/17/2019 8:04:54 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: SeekAndFind
Perhaps we should have a nationwide poll as to whether the Congress is contemtible???
6 posted on 07/17/2019 8:06:07 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: SeekAndFind

I hold Congress in contempt.


7 posted on 07/17/2019 8:06:10 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If you want a definition of "bullying" just watch the Democrats in the Senate)
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To: faithhopecharity

It’s like a bunch of ghetto versions of Barney Fife got elected to Congress


8 posted on 07/17/2019 8:09:30 PM PDT by KTM rider ( .......than to post and remove all doubt)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am greatly in favor of such resolutions. The more time they waste on useless legislation like this, the less time they have to attempt to undo the Trump Recovery.


9 posted on 07/17/2019 8:09:43 PM PDT by ssaftler (The opinions expressed here have not been peer reviewed, fact checked or focus group tested.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve held the House in contempt for decades.
Even when it was run by Bush League Republicans.


10 posted on 07/17/2019 8:11:28 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh please... they started of in a state of total war against this administration.


11 posted on 07/17/2019 8:15:32 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: SeekAndFind

Think of lying to Congress as though you are lying to Bozo the Clown. Not only is there no penalty, if you don’t lie, you don’t understand the stage!


12 posted on 07/17/2019 8:18:14 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Jim Robinson
But seriously, the power is inherent and historical. Totally agree, it is not expressed in the constitution. Neither is the power of the court to maintain decorum in court, expressed in the constitution.

The power is valid. But as with everything it touches, Congress abuses and makes a joke of its powers. It is a failed institution.

13 posted on 07/17/2019 8:20:58 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

What is the history of this congressional power.


14 posted on 07/17/2019 8:25:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: samadams2000

“Largely along party lines”

F’n CNN what BS spin, every vote was a Rat except the traitor Amash who is supposedly an independent.


15 posted on 07/17/2019 8:25:30 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Jim Robinson

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/RL/RL34097

English Parliament, colonial assemblies


16 posted on 07/17/2019 8:28:23 PM PDT by Cboldt
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“What is the history of this congressional power.”

It’s statutory. 2USCA192. Passed into law in 1938.

L


17 posted on 07/17/2019 8:29:57 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Considering that a good many of us have not only contempt, but have no regard whatsoever for the idiots composing the majority of the house (not capitalized on purpose - it’s a slime house), and the almost majority of the senate.

They are not called “congresscritters” for no reason.


18 posted on 07/17/2019 8:33:57 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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I see.

“Before a Congressional witness may be convicted of contempt, it must be established that the matter under investigation is a subject which Congress has constitutional power to legislate.”

But wasn’t this a matter between The executive branch and the SCOTUS? Wasn’t the president trying to reverse an Obama EO that removed a question that had been on the census for a hundred years or more?

The court didn’t rule the question was unconstitutional. It should have been a slam dunk.

Roberts is the guy who was out of order, not Trump or Barr or anyone else.


19 posted on 07/17/2019 8:45:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Jim Robinson

It is better known as a Bill of Attainder.


20 posted on 07/17/2019 8:53:19 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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