Posted on 07/13/2019 2:51:57 AM PDT by Kaslin
I'm sure Jeffrey Epstein feels that way, too, as howling mobs of Freepers demand his head on a plate for alleged crimes that took place 14-17 years ago, and every victim-witness has a financial interest in “proving” his guilt.
Actually, Epstein has accepted a guilty plea in the past and has served time.
I bought my mom the book yesterday afternoon. She woke up this morning, hours earlier than normal, just to continue reading it. She cannot put it down.
It matters little. Kavenaugh is compromised now. That whole spectacle was a clear message to him: we can destroy you whenever we want. We hold the power, not you. When we tell you to go for a homosexual decision, or an illegal alien decision, you better do it, because we own you. Thus is justice perverted by the Demonrats and Deep State.
Re: Actually, Epstein has accepted a guilty plea in the past and has served time.
I agree.
In 2008, a Florida state Grand Jury returned exactly one criminal charge against Epstein, even though 40 women eventually demanded and received civil compensation from Epstein.
In 2008, U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta and his entire prosecution team concluded there was insufficient evidence to charge Epstein with any federal crimes.
The new charges against Epstein took place in the 2002-2005 time period.
The primary witnesses against Epstein are his former assistants.
The FBI-DOJ are running their usual legal scam - “Either your boss goes to jail, or you go to jail.”
Gosh, I wonder what they are going to say when they testify?
It’s entirely possible that Jeffrey Epstein is a total scumbag.
But if Jeffrey Epstein can be denied the presumption of innocence, the same thing can happen to you and me.
Sorry, but the Kvannaugh fiasco was built on the other collaboration with that Mrs Red against Roy Moore. Had the GOP stood firm , the democrats would have not smelled blood and took their chances
The presumption of innocence is not a social grace, it's a legal one.
You're making the same mistake lefties make about equality. I have no obligation to treat you equally except when it comes to enforcing the law for or against you.
I can and should presume his innocence or presume his guilt all I want in my daily life, which includes this forum. That's called free speech, free expression. It's healthy in a free republic. It's the law that can't presume his guilt, and civil proceedings that shouldn't, until proven otherwise.
Til now, I've said nothing of him, I don't care about him. You might consider being careful calling people howling mobs, when you yourself present merely as a self righteous bloviating individual virtue signaler, which I note makes you the member of a ... mob.
The GOPe wanted Moore out, so they had no desire to defend him.
Epstein is a registered sex offender. He has been convicted of sexual crimes. New allegations have resulted in new charges. He is currently being held under arrest and bail considered. He has pled not guilty to the current charges.
Yes, he should be presumed innocent until proven guilty. The MSM has tried and convicted him in the court of public opinion.
And several of the rats on the committee feel justified in running for President?
Re: “which I note makes you the member of a ... mob.”
LOL!
As far as I know, I am the only person at Free Republic who is defending the rule of law in regard to Jeffrey Epstein.
I have not received one supportive Comment on this issue, which, I guess, makes me the smallest mob in world history!
I agree. The tactic of coming up with decades old allegations for which no evidence exists is an old one. Unfortunately, it is also successful. In elections, the purpose is to introduce just enough doubt among the more morally conscious voters to get them to sit out the election, thereby giving the leftist the win. Never mind that the allegations are predictably forgotten once the leftist wins; so many fine candidates have been taken down in this fashion that baseless allegations will continue to be a campaign tool.
Luckily, the tactic is not as successful when it comes to confirming judges. Although, to be fair, I have to wonder, in Kavanaugh’s case, if the smear did not go too far in the other direction and cause the confirmation of a judge whose judicial temperament is a bit questionable. In Justice Thomas’ case, the confirmation was clearly correct; he demonstrates brilliance.
It is entirely appropriate to say Epstein is a pedophile sex offender. He pled guilty to it in 2007.
“Mr. Epstein pleaded guilty to state charges of soliciting a minor for prostitution. He registered as a sex offender, paid damages to victims and served 13 months in the Palm Beach County Stockade” https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/us/jeffrey-epstein-acosta-florida-sex-abuse.html
The virtual signalling mob are Rats. So of course your mob ain’t here.
Virtue..
I agree...I wish more people understood this concept.
We, the people, can form an opinion of guilt or innocence based on the information we have at the time. We have no obligation to wait for the "verdict".
It is my strong belief that Comey, Strozk, Page (Lisa), Brennen, Clapper, and the whole deep state cabal are guilty of numerous crimes, even though they haven't been charged.
Til now, I've said nothing of him, I don't care about him.
I agree, however, I will follow this case on a daily basis as it goes to the corruption in the justice system at the federal and state level. It also goes to the corruption in the MSM.
LOL! Good post.
“As far as I know, I am the only person at Free Republic who is defending the rule of law in regard to Jeffrey Epstein.”
Your inflated sense of self-importance is not serving you well. Name and quote one freeper that is advocating a short-circuit of the justice system to try and sentence Epstein. You won’t because you can’t. Just because people exercise free speech to state their belief that he’s guilty does not mean they are bypassing the rule of law.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html - epstein
from link:
So, apologies in advance, but I want to do a quick little THREAD to explain my theory of what the Epstein story really is. I promise this isn’t some crazy Pizzagate conspiracy about space lizards, just a neat little explanation that IMO perfectly fits the known facts (0/13):
(1/13) Let’s take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We’ll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich
(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you’re very disposable (see: DC madam), and it’s also not super lucrative. You can’t charge millions of dollars up front.
(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don’t need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you’re still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.
(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)
(5/13) You don’t even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she’ll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.
(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)
More at above link..
from link:
The fact that Epstein’s fund is offshore in a tax haven — it is based in the U.S. Virgin Islands — and has a secret client list both add credence to the blackmail theory.
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