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Commercial Ships Urged Not to Use Private Armed Guards in Persian Gulf
(Reuters) gCaptain ^ | 7-12-19 | Jonathan Saul

Posted on 07/12/2019 1:34:25 PM PDT by fishtank

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To: JBW1949

“Armed guards are not the solution – all you need are more eyes and ears looking at all sides of the ship especially the rear when passing through those waters.”

Isn’t that what radar is for?


21 posted on 07/12/2019 1:52:23 PM PDT by This_Dude
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Did a little digging. In answer: International Chamber of Shipping, BIMCO, Intertanko, Intercargo, and OCIMF.

FWIW.


22 posted on 07/12/2019 1:52:27 PM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds)
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To: fishtank

Sure. Let the Muslims just blow you up! What utter fools


23 posted on 07/12/2019 1:52:52 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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Wouldn’t break my heart if someone started a business selling CIWS platforms to these businesses.


24 posted on 07/12/2019 1:54:24 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: fishtank
"Guy Platten, secretary general of the International Chamber of Shipping..."

Had to go way down into the article to see who was issuing the warning. Protect yourself your way Guy, and let the commercial shipowners protect their property the way they see fit.

25 posted on 07/12/2019 1:54:38 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: dynachrome
$100 for each dead pirate, $1000 for each pirate ship sunk.

Does that include Ilhan Omar? Best take care of her before she wears a special kind of "belt" into the House.

26 posted on 07/12/2019 1:55:11 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: This_Dude

Yep...And without weaponry, the only thing radar would be good for is to let you know they are coming so you can wave at them before they kill you...


27 posted on 07/12/2019 1:55:29 PM PDT by JBW1949
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To: fishtank

This crap sounds like when the govenment used to tell hostages to follow every command of their captors. What rational person wants to be unarmed when help from any government navy is HOURS away.


28 posted on 07/12/2019 1:56:21 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Freeper formerly known as WMarshal.......)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ocimf.org/media/134044/2019-07-03-industry-guidance3-002-002-.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjlvtbZoLDjAhVqk-AKHVJkCzYQFjADegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw0cuvmhNujpdpZcGCf1JIMn

Hopefully that’s a link that will get you to the 5 page doc. The statement was issued July 3. Pretty much common sense best practices except for the mad-on regarding private security.


29 posted on 07/12/2019 1:57:01 PM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds)
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To: tired&retired

At this point I wouldn’t mind 435 aboard.


30 posted on 07/12/2019 1:58:10 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If you want a definition of "bullying" just watch the Democrats in the Senate)
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To: Manuel OKelley

Please do not insult us of western European descent with neanderthal DNA but grouping us in with those people

I understand what your’re saying, but unless you are living over there and know that I don’t broad brush intentionally, I think that I haven’t disrespected you in the least. And I hope you know that......


31 posted on 07/12/2019 1:59:04 PM PDT by Dawgreg
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To: fishtank

The only corporate is a dead pirate. Any trouble, give ‘em the old number 6.


32 posted on 07/12/2019 1:59:46 PM PDT by Bernard (We will stop calling you fake news when you stop being fake news.)
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To: fishtank

The warning makes a ton of sense, since the likely adversary isn’t a pickup team of Somali pirates. There is no way a private security force armed even with .50 cal machine guns can stand up to the level of force a nation state like Iran can bring to bear, using air- and sea-launched missiles. A single cruise missile could do a lot of damage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Sea_Isle_City


33 posted on 07/12/2019 2:00:50 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: fishtank

We can count on Joe Biden to arm each ship with a double-barrel shotgun.


34 posted on 07/12/2019 2:03:45 PM PDT by ryderann
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To: fishtank

What is Lloyd’s opinion?


35 posted on 07/12/2019 2:04:48 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Zhang Fei

But private security might be just the thing to deal with stealthy saboteurs.


36 posted on 07/12/2019 2:05:03 PM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds)
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How is this any different than telling a woman being raped to “just lean back and enjoy it”?

I wouldn’t take a canoe through that region without a SEAL in the canoe with me, and a Mark V SOC with a full squad of SEALs following along.


37 posted on 07/12/2019 2:07:15 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: This_Dude

Does radar work on small fiberglass boats? I know some fiberglass sailboats carry radar reflector’s at the top of the mast to make sure the bigger ships see them.


38 posted on 07/12/2019 2:07:24 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Travis McGee

Ping to 38 for your expertise.


39 posted on 07/12/2019 2:08:14 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Zhang Fei

I was thinking the same thing.

While I always support armed resistance, this isn’t a few pirates. It is a nation with a real military.

It seems in this case the use of allied military escorts is the way to go.


40 posted on 07/12/2019 2:09:30 PM PDT by yarddog
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