I addressed your point in #32, #44.
Illegals can be counted but it doesn’t matter.
What matters is the formulas that yield the ‘Apportionment Population’ (AP); that’s the official term and it describes the population of citizens entitled to representation in Congress.
The example I gave is a simple one:
400 million people counted total, living, breathing, broken down by formulas acting on federal databases as follows:
* 360 million estimated citizens by AP estimation formulas
* 10 million legal immigrants, green card holders, visa holders
* 30 million illegals or undocumented
The AP formulas will be used to apportion representatives, not merely from census survey data.
The beauty of POTUS’s move is that if Pelosi and her commie coalition complain about the AP formulas, then POTUS can come back and say let’s pass a law making it clear that citizenship can be asked on the Census.
If Pelosi says no, but she wants to ‘investigate’ the AP formulations, then she can subpoena the US community of PhD Statisticians that make up the advisory panels for Commerce. She will be crippled by persons having IQs making mincemeat out of her protestations. She hasn’t the acumen for it, not even close.
This is not a new thing.
Look up W. Edwards Deming who among many was a great, great influencer over many things, one of which was the US Census.
Thanks for the clarification. I didn’t read the entire thread you linked. Your link took be to a post that showed a chart that addressed the history of censorship questions on the census. I thought that specific post was what you wanted me to see.
You may be right on the Apportionment Population formula. All I know there are some who think illegals should be included and the issue of whether or not they can is working its way through the courts right now.
Thanks for taking the time to write your reply.
You repeated yourself enough. All residents including illegal aliens are included in the population of each state and all are included in the apportionment of the House. Period. End of story per the Supreme Court.
W. Edwards Deming created the high quality car industry in Japan when they implemented his statistical QC procedures.
You are quite wrong on this point. The Apportionment is based on the numbers of persons as enumerated by the Census. That is by law and by the Constitution. The states will determine the boundaries of each district but they must be equal in number to all districts in a state to the maximum extent possible. Everyone, citizens, green visa holders, illegal aliens, inmates, lunatics, etc. etc. count if they were counted in the enumeration. This is one of the reasons that the Democrats have been fighting this issue.