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Boeing's 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers [Bloomberg Link Only]
Bloomberg [Link in Body] ^ | Juen 28, 2019 | Peter Robison

Posted on 06/29/2019 3:48:32 AM PDT by C19fan

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: 737max; aerospace; aviation; boeing; boeing737; boeing737max; india; it; outsource
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Boeing nickel and dimed by hiring cheap labor from India whom have no experience in aerospace. Now they will be paying billions in lawsuits and lost sales. Schadenfreude. I cannot tell you how many times I have had to tear down and reconstruct code for reports because the cheap labor writing the code had no or limited knowledge of the industry they were writing reports for. At least I was not redoing code that involved life or death.
1 posted on 06/29/2019 3:48:32 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Penny wise pound foolish. That doesn’t even describe the tragedy.


2 posted on 06/29/2019 3:54:58 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: C19fan
"Boeing nickel and dimed by hiring cheap labor....who have no experience in aerospace."

The mind-set of the slick MBA's in charge of major aerospace corporations is that an engineer is an engineer - they are all the same and inter-changeable.

If one doesn't have a love of aviation, he has no business working in aviation.

3 posted on 06/29/2019 3:57:24 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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If one doesn't have a love of aviation, he has no business working in aviation.

Pretty much fits ay job, with the exception that in aviation, screw-ups can cost lives.

4 posted on 06/29/2019 4:03:34 AM PDT by Flick Lives (MSM, the Enemy of the People since 1898)
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To: CodeToad

What a way to wreck a reputation for quality.


5 posted on 06/29/2019 4:09:34 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Flick Lives

Anytime lives and injury are at risk of product failure is bad. Look how many kids die from toys that are not thoroughly tested. But aircraft are the most spectacular example.


6 posted on 06/29/2019 4:12:37 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: Psalm 73

Bad engineers who love aviation don’t belong in aviation engineering either.


7 posted on 06/29/2019 4:12:57 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Flick Lives

Pretty much fits ay job, with the exception that in aviation, screw-ups can cost lives.


Actually a case could be made that any job done wrong has the potential of causing great harm, either physically or financially. This harm could be directly or indirectly.

Watching the TV program SECONDS FROM DISASTER illustrates how a series of small acts, oversights, and mistakes leads to disasters.


8 posted on 06/29/2019 4:13:42 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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"Bad engineers...."

Should have been my No. 1 caveat. Thanks.

9 posted on 06/29/2019 4:15:44 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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To: C19fan

I had a feeling this would turn out to be the cause.


10 posted on 06/29/2019 4:20:58 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: C19fan

I read the article.

The Indian software companies say they did not work on any software that is currently under investigation.

Heads Up - almost all of Boeing’s engineers in the Seattle metro area are unionized.

Also, I am still not aware of any “close calls” in North America, Europe, or wealthy Asian countries that were caused by the “defective” software.


11 posted on 06/29/2019 4:31:11 AM PDT by zeestephen
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Where is the loudmouth “If it ain’t Boeing, I ain’t going” crowd?


12 posted on 06/29/2019 4:32:22 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-mob)
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mind-set of the slick MBA's in charge of major aerospace corporations

Accountants should never be put in charge of any company that is not an accounting firm. They have no vision for the actual business, which is the revenue side of things. Instead the only trick they know is cost cutting, even at the expense of revenue.

Working on the revenue side requires spending money and having a vision for where the company needs to go. An accountant can't do either. Any company run by an accountant is at least beginning the death process.

13 posted on 06/29/2019 4:34:22 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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It actually looks like the damn thing was programed to crash. Pilots fought the computer to the very end.

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14 posted on 06/29/2019 4:36:51 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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As a Medical Device Engineer with 40 years of experience designing life sustaining devices, you get what you pay for.

I hired to work on a cardiac device to bridge a patient until a donor heart was available. The engineering staff were all H1-B’s who did not have a grasp of the English language. All design functions were compartmentalized so you did not have a global sense of how the device was suppose to work, just your portion. I quit at the end of the second day.


15 posted on 06/29/2019 4:38:35 AM PDT by wetgundog (CNN is FAKE NEWS ...Just added NBC.)
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To: hopespringseternal

Accountants should never be put in charge of any company that is not an accounting firm. They have no vision for the actual business, which is the revenue side of things. Instead the only trick they know is cost cutting, even at the expense of revenue.

Example No 1: GM


16 posted on 06/29/2019 4:38:48 AM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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"Any company run by an accountant..."

Have worked for three major defense companies in my 40-year aerospace career - all had that flaw.
It's what happens when one takes the Bible out of the Boardroom - you become unmoored.

17 posted on 06/29/2019 4:38:54 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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To: hopespringseternal

Is the CEO of Boeing an accountant?


18 posted on 06/29/2019 4:40:15 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives numerous, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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Boeing has nickled and dimed their suppliers for years, causing many of them to cut their margins to near zero or go out of business.

But the MCAS software is fully in Boeing’s hands, not HCLs.


19 posted on 06/29/2019 4:42:27 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Well this is how these project managers think, anyone can write sw. The problem is, to get it done correctly, you have to have some that can write it and then spend the resources to test it extensively with what, if then scenarios.

This is where I saw in the day, they never wanted to spend the capital in the testing end.

20 posted on 06/29/2019 4:46:35 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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