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To: Enigo54

“AH, so no free speech for others, but all for you. Got it.”

No, you don’t get it. Besides being a straw man argument, it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of first amendment rights.

Do you think that liberals should be able to come on FR and promote abortion or homosexual marriage?

“If you want everyone to say what you want and think like you do, start your own board.”

You are on a conservative forum. That does not mean that everyone will agree, but it does mean that the owner of the forum has the right to exclude non-conservative advocacy.

“However jumping on your soapbox, while perched on your white horse and telling others they are going to hell, well, you may want to look into Westboro church, seems more your speed.”

Don’t misinterpret what I said. I never told anyone they are going to Hell. I warned people what leads to Hell.

Maybe you would be more at home teaming up with the liberals who kicked Israel Folau off of the Australian rugby team for posting this Instagram: “Warning drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists, idolaters, Hell awaits you. Repent! Only Jesus saves.”

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3759949/posts

The consensus around here and among conservatives is that he was exercising his free speech. However, apparently you think such posts do not even belong on FR.

Here is what the Bible says about your comments:

John 7:7
The world... hates Me [i.e. Jesus] because I testify of it that its works are evil.

Luke 6:22
Blessed are you when men hate you,
And when they exclude you,
And revile you, and cast out your name as evil,
For the Son of Man’s sake.

Members of this forum should not be advocating abortion, homosexuality, adultery, pornography, prostitution, atheism, or other ideologies that are contradictory the motto and mission statement, as determined by the judgment of the forum’s owner. If he deems these acceptable or decides to change the mission statement, that is his prerogative alone. However, I am not trying to make any rules, just pointing out these things are inconsistent with the purpose of this site.

There are members of this forum who hold such views, but this is not the place to advocate them, as I understand it. If you disagree, perhaps it is you who are in the wrong place.

Your post reminds me of a close in-law of mine’s “Christian” relatives. When he posted some things on Facebook against homosexual marriage, they railed against him about how unloving and “unChristian” he was being. These same people took there small children to attend a homosexual couple’s “wedding”. And they claim to be Christian. It is ironic that they could not show him the same love, compassion, and tolerance that they reserved for the homosexuals.

It says volumes about the person making the comments to which I am replying, that when warning people of Hell he gets his feathers all ruffled, but he does not at all mind when someone advocates having sex with a married woman. And he rails against me for opposing this but thinks posting such trash on a conservative, family- and faith-friendly forum is perfectly fine. That might be dangerous to one’s soul.

Matthew 23:13
But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.

Some people fear the threat of Hell. Some ignore it. And some not only reject it, they oppose and try to shout down those who warn others. Most people are not content to go alone to their eternal destination; they usually take others with them. For some, that is Heaven. For some, that is Hell.

When the two thieves on the crosses who were crucified on either side of Christ saw the injustice of what the Roman and Jewish leaders had done to Christ and how He responded to this, they had two starkly different reactions.

Luke 23:39-43
Then one of the criminals who were hanged blasphemed Him, saying, “If You are the Christ, save Yourself and us.” But the other, answering, rebuked him, saying, “Do you not even fear God, seeing you are under the same condemnation? And we indeed justly, for we receive the due reward of our deeds; but this Man has done nothing wrong.” Then he said to Jesus, “Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom.” And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”

These are the same to options afforded to every one of us. We can chose to remain in our sins, unrepentant, and will one day wake up in Hell. Or, we can yield to God’s mercy and grace and receive forgiveness. But notice that the one who received grace was the one who accepted responsibility for his sins and crimes. The other was apparently stubbornly unrepentant until the very end.

I am making no claims of being any more moral than either of those thieves. And whether you find my way of talking about these things offensive or not, do you really want to stake your eternity on whether you like my personality?


158 posted on 06/29/2019 9:14:05 AM PDT by unlearner (War is coming.)
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To: unlearner

Do you think that liberals should be able to come on FR and promote abortion or homosexual marriage?
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Yes, this forum has had nothing to sharpen its claws on for decades.

You are on a conservative forum. That does not mean that everyone will agree, but it does mean that the owner of the forum has the right to exclude non-conservative advocacy.
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Again, not your forum and the owner has made it quite clear, YOU don’t speak for him, soooooooooo I’D take his name out of your mouth.

Don’t misinterpret what I said. I never told anyone they are going to Hell. I warned people what leads to Hell.

Maybe you would be more at home teaming up with the liberals who kicked Israel Folau off of the Australian rugby team for posting this Instagram: “Warning drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists, idolaters, Hell awaits you. Repent! Only Jesus saves.”

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3759949/posts

The consensus around here and among conservatives is that he was exercising his free speech. However, apparently you think such posts do not even belong on FR.
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You also don’t speak for me, so put away your crystal balls and guessing where I may or may not be comfortable.

Here is what the Bible says about your comments:

John 7:7
The world... hates Me [i.e. Jesus] because I testify of it that its works are evil.

Luke 6:22
Blessed are you when men hate you,
And when they exclude you,
And revile you, and cast out your name as evil,
For the Son of Man’s sake.
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Odd, it neither addressed me, nor was I addressing Christ. Or are you comparing yourself TO Christ and trying to take that mantle from Him?

Members of this forum should not be advocating abortion, homosexuality, adultery, pornography, prostitution, atheism, or other ideologies that are contradictory the motto and mission statement, as determined by the judgment of the forum’s owner. If he deems these acceptable or decides to change the mission statement, that is his prerogative alone. However, I am not trying to make any rules, just pointing out these things are inconsistent with the purpose of this site.
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OR trains, or Cruz supporters, or grouchy old men, or people with an odd point of view on how things MIGHT work. First they came for the Jews, but I wasn’t one……

If you disagree, perhaps it is you who are in the wrong place.
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Ahhhh, once again, its the “If you don’t agree with ME, then you don’t belong here.

It says volumes about the person making the comments to which I am replying, that when warning people of Hell he gets his feathers all ruffled…
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Not at all, other than the fact is that your argument has been tried MANY times here and eventually been shown little support. Keep tilting at those windmills.

These are the same to options afforded to every one of us. We can chose to remain in our sins, unrepentant…
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Born again is born again

And whether you find my way of talking about these things offensive or not, do you really want to stake your eternity on whether you like my personality?
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I haven’t even begun to consider your personality. If you want me to, I can.

Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

Matthew 7:5


159 posted on 06/29/2019 9:53:46 AM PDT by Enigo54 (Hank Reardon was right)
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