Posted on 06/21/2019 7:10:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Well...Conservatives have figured it out and don’t respond.
Which means that...most people who do the surveys are liberals... so that’s what the data reveals. Of course NO ONE who ‘reports’ on polls or cites them, bothers to articulate that point, when they reference the ‘numbers’.
Hillary is living (sort of) proof that it’s dangerous and really foolish to make AND believe your own polls.
llyburns fish fry may tell us something. Mayor Pete has pulled out due to rising tension in south bend. We will see how Biden is welcomed
WI is not “trending D”..
Walker lost re-election, that’s not surprising. He served 2 terms, its not shocking he didn’t win a third. parties and individuals don’t generally get re-elected forever.
People don’t seem to be capable of rational introspection when it comes to politics.
You win, you usually win by claiming the other guy is all wrong... then you govern... after X years, you may have improved the things you said were wrong, but in the mean time, other things are now wrong, so someone else comes along pointing out what is wrong, and the problems you claimed for your victory, are largely forgotten...
I wasn’t shocked that Walker lost.. would have been nice had he won, but wasn’t shocked by the loss.
That doesn’t mean that WI is suddenly anti Trump.
Had the WI election been in sync with a presidential year, I doubt you would have see the same outcome.
The #1 thing that everyone, everyone has to come to terms with but doesn’t seem to be able to is simply this... TRUMP’S BASE (MAGA BASE) is NOT THE GOP BASE! Yes, the most of the GOP base is onboard with MAGA, but that’s NOT WHO the MAGA BASE IS...
The sooner folks understand that, the easier it is to understand, Trump is not in any trouble at all.... and short of something like a complete economic collapse, he’s going to win by the biggest margin since Reagan.
“So, either the polls were wrong or a lot of people voted for Trump despite not liking him.” A personal anecdote if I may: All campaign long, a CPA friend cursed Trump. Saturday before Election Day, someone told him, “If you vote for that baby killer, it will put a blotch on your eternal soul that will never go away!” Come Tuesday, he voted for Trump, and when Trump won, the guy rejoiced along with us. He STILL rejoices.
> Trump needs to thread the needle in multiple left-leaning states a second time. Tens of millions of Americans voted. Trump won by 70k across 3 states. <
Right you are. Hillary was overconfident. She didn’t bother to campaign very much in those three states. The Democrats won’t make that mistake in 2020. Plus there will be voter fraud that would make Stalin blush.
That’s why I think Morgan is wrong.
Dems cheat EVERY election, so what? This is another parroted line that needs to just die...
There is NO path to victory for ANY dem in 2020.. short of a complete economic meltdown or other unforeseen event of that magnitude.
Dems cheated in 2016.. the idea they “held back” is nonsense.... Hillary’s vote totals were a whopping 100k under Barry’s 2012 numbers... Dems weren’t holding back their fraud. This narrative is idiotic.
Those who pray need to continue praying for him.
I sure hope so.
I think there are less people that voted for Trump that are disappointed than there are people who voted for Hillary who are now opening their eyes to the successes of Trump - who the media portrayed as unhinged, unknown and a reckless vote. Many Hillary voters have benefited from Trump policies and will easily go from voting Hillary to voting Trump, mostly Independents. So if 0.5% switch, that 1% more for Trump....a landslide.
I agree.
I don’t think we have to worry about Biden, who would be tougher to beat, being his opponent. They’ll choose one of the insanely anti-Americans as their candidate. People will continue to see their true, ugly colors.
Anybody with an open mind who watched that rally in Orlando, and knows how the campaign leverages those rallies, knows that the Democrats are in trouble and Trump is poised to win handily.
Again, anyone parroting your line just doesn’t get how or why Trump won in 16.
They focus on the wrong thing...
Oh Nos’ he only got 70k more votes in 3 states..
No, he didn’t....
Trump got 290k more votes than ANY republican ever got in PA.
He slightly underperformed Romney in WI.
He got 110k more votes in MI than ANY republican before him, at the same time Hillary.
The narrative you choose to follow is you focus on Hillary underperforming Barry WHICH ANY D was going to do in this region, instead of realizing Trump OVERPERFORMED by HUGE numbers any R before him...
And he did that as a “Unknown” entity, in an election where his opposition was simply saying, he’s too dangerous and going to destroy the country.
Trump accomplished this, largely by attracting the disenfranchised voters, largely democrats.. He didn’t get NEARLY all of them, most of the voters that fit that profile, still stayed home... they either thought Trump was just another guy making promises he didn’t keep, or bought into the he’s too dangerous narrative... but even so he got 400k of them to show up in 16 and vote GOP than had EVER voted GOP before in these states...
Now that he is no longer an unknown, and has a track record, and he has shown without question that he means what he says and intends to deliver. Man of the rest those that stayed home in 16, are going to show up in 2020! and there are a LOT more of them.
Not to mention many rank and file D’s are directly seeing the improvements that Trump’s policies have brought... .They may have dutifully pulled the D lever out of the fear mongering in 16, they WILL NOT do so in 2020.
There is ZERO Path to the white house for the D’s, short of a complete economic collapse... none.
Trump will handily get 3-5 Million more votes in 2020 than he did in 16, irrespective of WHO the D’s nominate.. and that total could be a good bit more depending on who ends up being the D nominee.
Trump will take every state he won in 16, and will win most if not all states he got 45% or more of the vote of in 16 and lost... and will battle for and likely get a few of the states he got 40-45% of the vote in 16.
Trump will be re-elected by the largest EC margin since Reagan.
This thing isn’t going to be close.
The days of surrendering the map, and threading the needle, Karl Rove style are OVER.
We must also remember that what transpires between now and Nov., 2020 regarding the Coup is going to change things in Trump’s favor.
I think thee should be a national “Lie to the Pollsters” movement and destroy anything they ever do!
That's all you need to hear right there.
35 posted on 6/19/2019, 12:24:02 PM by SamAdams76
Trump won easily in 2016 but has since been obstructed by ungodly Democrats (thanks Ann Coulter).
Although Trump will predictably win easily again in 2020 elections, patriots must wake up and support him this time with a new patriot Congress that will promise to support Trump’s vision for MAGA, now KAG.
Remember in November 2020!
MAGA! Now KAG!
I was not talking solely about presidential elections. Election fraud affects all elections, including state and local — and it must be stopped. My point is that Trump is the first GOP politician I can remember who would actually have the stones to do something about it.
I don’t disagree that voter fraud needs to be dealt with, I am just pointing out that there are some who keep pushing the narrative fraud will cost Trump re-election and that’s not going to be the case.
Mark my words, the Rats are clearing the path for Mrs. Zero.
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