Posted on 06/15/2019 7:07:35 PM PDT by Sioux-san
Well, for one thing, we’re a very litigious society these days. People working in all sorts of institutions put lawsuit fear far above all other kinds of fears.
(Not to mention that - as Rocko Jack noted - the story stinks to high heaven.)
This story is horrifying, but I wonder if there is more to it than what is being reported. “Predictive neglect” is ususally brought up where the parent is too mentally impaired to be considered a suitable parent. Seems odd too that she was at 38 weeks of pregnancy, yet was traveling around interstate with insurance that was limited to where she lived. Hope she gets competent legal representaion to sort this out.
You're saying the hospital personnel's behavior was fear driven?
That's interesting.
How 'bout the story's stink? What makes it stink to you?
Middlesex Hospital - don’t know the administrator’s name, but if you are curious, perhaps you could call them and get back to us.
I have a friend who lives near this hospital and went to the ER for chest pain. She believed it was from stress due to her duplex neighbor cooking up batches of drugs at night, but wanted to make sure it wasn’t something more serious (the landlord and police refused to help and made her feel guilty for besmirching such a nice community yadayadayada). The female ER doctor at Middlesex said my friend was suffering from ‘muscle strain’ from lifting a suitcase as she had to move out of the house to get away from the fumes. That’s all she wrote.
I don’t know how much you read, but they wouldn’t have been up in that area at all if it weren’t for a family funeral they attended in New Jersey. Bad judgment to take a few days in Maine before going back home to Tennessee? Perhaps. Insurance typically covers emergency care out of network, in my experience. Seems anyone who really wants to help either gets murdered or gets run off.
The idea of ‘predictive analysis’ sounds a little too much like ‘Minority Report’, to me.
The story seems created; provocative and fear-mongering.
(Not to say that something like that may not lie in our future...)
I agree.
You need to catch up with the times - this is the Guilty until proven Guilty AMerica. The Republic is long gone down the Chute because we didn’t fight to keep it. I am quite certain the Egalitarian STate of Connecticut won’t limit their Predictive Analytic skills to just the Medicaid population.
https://hbisolutions.com/press-ct-dss/
I read the article.
The mother’s name, in one paragraph, is said to be Suzy Gunderson?
I wonder if she is related to Ted Gunderson?
That would put this into a really interesting light.
Yeas it was the driving to Maine after the funeral that seemed questionable, at 9 1/2 months pregnant when you live back down in Tennesee? She made a comment on her gofundme page about the hospital wanting payment, so I assume perhaps she was on medicaid which doesn’t pay out of network. Hospital wanted mental health evaluation. Not saying she wasn’t being screwed around by these people, but I don’t think we are getting the full story either.
Why is that not possible?
Yes, the story has an odor.
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Fascism: The Two Birds with One Stone Approach
I think of Obama's liberal fascism as a cancer that attempts to kill the two birds of American exceptionalism with one stone. It is a deviously appealing Third Way that in the end, if allowed to triumph completely, kills both individual liberty and Judeo/Christian religion with its single stone.
And, indeed this was the precise goal of Adolph Hitler. Unlike the outspoken hatred of private property and religion espoused by communists under Lenin and Stalin, Hitler preferred the more moderate-seeming incremental takeover of private enterprise in the interest of the "common good," and the slow-death of Judeo/Christian religion by chipping away at it and replacing the people's dependence upon God gradually with reliance on the state (Hitler).
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It all making perfect sense now. The left creates a meme,Bush/Hitler,Obama the third choice,Trump colludes with Russians, when in reality they are all lies.It's simply a ruse to gain power which is what the hard left is all about.
Meanwhile, over in muzzie land Who are the most hated in the mid east and the most destroyed groups ever? Why it's the Coptic Christians! They don't fight back, just sit there and take it and have been literally been obliterated from the mid east and North Africa.
So who do we have here: From the FR link:
They stopped in a hospital in Connecticut while on a trip to Maine because Suzy was experiencing back pain, and the staff there allegedly accused her husband of being a “Muslim terrorist,” even though: he is a U.S. citizen of Egyptian heritage, and a Coptic Christian. The most hated of all by muslims and other leftists,the coptics,the perfect target.Put it all together and it makes perfect sense. Without any legitimate law enforcement to stop what is going on the muzzie/pedophilas/child smuggling world wide ring is free to do what they do best. Steal kids and sell them to the highest bidder. Probably what is going on here.
Also, as we see the child theft ring is covered at every level of govt. So, no matter what a lawyer does to protect his client he will run into a roadblock anywhere and everywhere. Without the protection at every level the child theft ring falls apart.
Who wrote that headline? I thought the parents were kidnapped!
I WAS CRYING ABOUT HOW WE HAD BEEN TREATED AND THAT MY HEART RATE BY THEN WAS NEARLY 200 AND MY BLOOD PRESSURE WAS 180/120.
AFTER I CONTINUED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT AND AS IT CONTINUED TO CLIMB, THEY FINALLY GAVE ME MY BETA BLOCKER BUT STILL REFUSED TO GIVE ME MY DIABETES MEDICINE.
AFTER THAT PETER AND I WERE EXHAUSTED AND BOTH SLEPT FOR AROUND 8 HOURS STRAIGHT.
THE NEXT MORNING WHEN WE AWOKE, MY BLOOD SUGAR WAS ALSO VERY HIGH AND THEY FINALLY GAVE ME THE METFORMIN I WAS PRESCRIBED BY MY GENERAL PRACTITIONER.
THEN A NEONATOLOGIST CAME IN OUR ROOM AND STARTED TELLING US THAT HE “KNEW” WE DID NOT CARE ABOUT OUR BABY BECAUSE IF WE DID, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE NURSERY FOR EVERY FEEDING AND THAT IF HE WANTED TO, HE COULD HAVE US PROSECUTED FOR NEGLECTING HER JUST BECAUSE WE DIDN’T SHOW UP FOR 2 OF HER FEEDINGS!!
WE EXPLAINED TO HIM EVERYTHING THAT HAD HAPPENED AND THAT I WAS MADE TO GO THE ENTIRE PREVIOUS DAY WITHOUT ANY OF MY MEDICATIONS, THAT I HAD BEEN IN EXCRUCIATING PAIN AND THAT WE WERE BOTH EXHAUSTED AND JUST NEEDED SOME SLEEP.
HE SAID HE DIDN’T CARE AND THAT WE “SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE.”
WE ASKED HIM ISN’T THE NURSERY THERE TO GIVE THE PARENTS SOME REST?
HE SAID NO, THAT THIS WAS A “BABY FRIENDLY HOSPITAL” AND THAT WE, AS THE PARENTS WERE SUPPOSED TO DO ALL THE FEEDINGS.
WE TOLD HIM THAT WE DIDN’T SEND OUR DAUGHTER THERE WILLINGLY.
HE CHANGED THE SUBJECT AND STARTED SAYING THAT HE “KNEW” WE DID NOT EVEN HAVE CUSTODY OF OUR OTHER CHILDREN AND THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO KEEP SOFIA ANYWAY SO THERE WAS NO NEED FOR US TO SEE HER ANYMORE.
I STARTED CRYING AS PETER WAS TELLING HIM IT WASN’T TRUE, THAT WE DO HAVE CUSTODY OF OUR OTHER CHILDREN. HE ACCUSED US OF “KIDNAPPING” OUR OTHER TWO CHILDREN (THAT HE SAID HE “KNEW” WE DID NOT ACTUALLY HAVE CUSTODY OF) AND TRYING TO MAKE A BREAK FOR THE CANADIAN BORDER AND REFUSED TO TELL US WHO TOLD HIM THAT WE DIDN’T ACTUALLY “HAVE CUSTODY OF OUR OTHER CHILDREN.” (NOT TRUE IN ANY WAY)
WE ASKED HIM HOW COULD WE BE TRYING TO “RUN FOR THE BORDER” IF WE DIDN’T EVEN HAVE OUR CHILDREN WITH US AT THE TIME? HE DIDN’T HAVE AN ANSWER.
WE BEGGED AND PLEADED WITH HIM TO PLEASE LET US SEE OUR BABY.
HE TOLD US THAT WE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO SEE HER ONLY FOR FEEDINGS AND THAT IF WE MISSED EVEN ONE MORE SINGLE FEEDING, THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO SEE HER ANYMORE.
HE TOLD US THAT THE DCF WOULD BE THERE TO TAKE CUSTODY OF HER ON TUESDAY AND THAT HE WAS GOING TO TESTIFY AGAINST US ABOUT HOW WE “NEGLECTED” HER BY SLEEPING DURING HER SCHEDULED FEEDING TIMES AND ABOUT HOW I “REFUSED” TO SIGN A MEDICAL RELEASE FOR MY PRENATAL RECORDS.
I TOLD HIM THAT WASN’T TRUE AND THAT I NEVER REFUSED TO SIGN ANYTHING. I ASKED HIM IF I SIGNED THE MEDICAL RELEASES AND WE MAKE HER AN APPOINTMENT WITH A PEDIATRICIAN IN CT, WOULD WE BE ALLOWED TO KEEP OUR DAUGHTER AND TAKE HER HOME?
HE LAUGHED AND SAID NO, THAT IF WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE GOING HOME WITH OUR DAUGHTER, WE WERE DEAD WRONG AND THAT WE WOULD NOT BE GOING HOME WITH HER “FOR A VERY LONG TIME, IF EVER.”
It has now been nearly seven months since the state of Connecticut kidnapped the couple’s baby and they are fighting every day to get her back.
What’s more is the fact that the couple alleges Sofia is being mistreated in state care and nearly died.
OUR DAUGHTER NEARLY DIED IN THEIR CARE AFTER WE BEGGED THEM NOT TO LET THE FOSTER FAMILY SEND HER TO DAYCARE AT ONLY 8 WEEKS OLD AND SHE CAUGHT RSV AND ENDED UP FIGHTING FOR HER LIFE IN THE HOSPITAL, BUT THEY DID IT ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT’S WHAT WAS “MOST CONVENIENT FOR THE FOSTER FAMILY.”
The couple has since started an online petition and a GoFundMe page to help with bills related to getting their daughter back. They say they have been falsely charged with bogus accusations and never been arrested. They also note that they have video evidence to back up all their claims. Some of that video is above.
Below is a heart breaking video of little Sofia left in a dark room screaming frantically. Notice how she stops crying immediately when Suzy picks her up.
Please share this story and help this family get back their daughter before she becomes a statistic like so many other children ripped from the caring arms of parents by the state.
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These people need help their go fund me page needs to be bumped and the Trump administration needs to know what is going on.I would bet Once they do this will be stopped and hopefully heads will roll.
This couple reportedly fell in love at graduate school and are Americans of the first order!!To be treated this way,for months now, is indeed a sin.Things like this should never happen in the US.
thanks for this link!!
Just when you think you have heard it all there’s more:
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Two nurses then pulled off my pants and underwear right in front of a whole room of nursing staff whom I have never met, including male staff. Before they had even given me anything to cover up with, they ordered me to further remove the rest of my clothes.
I asked them to ask the male nurses to please leave while I was undressing, they refused. As I was taking off my bra, one of the male nurses turned his head and smirked.
After I was forced to take off my clothes and was sitting there for at least a few minutes completely naked, a nurse tossed a fabric gown at me, giggled and said “ here honey, cover those things up.”
It was completely dehumanizing and humiliating.
I was then forced to urinate in a cup in front of 2 hospital staff who called me a “drug addict.” (My toxicology screen was negative, as was the baby’s!)
After that I went to get my clothes to put them back on to leave. Another nurse asked me what I was doing. I told her that I didn’t like the way I was being treated and that I was leaving.
She apologized for what the other staff had done and said that they just get a lot of “junkies” in there and that I should at least stay long enough to get an IV and let them check my cervix to make sure the baby was ok.
I agreed to stay only to get my cervix checked and get an IV in case anything was wrong.
After they put the IV in, the nurse injected clear fluid into my IV but wouldn’t say what it was and I started to get really dizzy. The doctor came in and checked my cervix and said that I was barely 1 cm dilated, if that.
She asked me if I had any medical records (but never once asked for a release for anything).
I told her I thought I had my ultrasound report in my email and started looking through my phone.
She finally said its fine we’ll just get it after the c-section.
I told her no, I wanted to be allowed to leave to go back to New Jersey to have the baby where we were staying with family. She told me that they had me scheduled for a repeat c-section.
I told her no, that I did not want to have another c-section and that I wanted to birth my daughter naturally this time and that I wanted to leave.
I told her if they didn’t let me leave, we were going to call the police and report them for holding us as hostages in the hospital against our will.
She said “go ahead, the law is on OUR SIDE IN CONNECTICUT and if you don’t stop resisting we are going to call the police and have you arrested for child endangerment and they will come in and chain you to the bed and force you to have the surgery anyway.”
[The nurse] even wrote in her report to the DCF that the C-section was to be done on “short order” meaning that it was to be “done very quickly.”
She also admitted that we asked to leave the hospital before the c-section was performed and that they refused to let us leave and held us there against our will, saying we were a “flight risk.”
What excuse did they have to have done the c-section so quickly, and against my will, even though there was no medical need to do so?
I was not in any distress, I never even felt a single contraction, the baby was not in any distress and her heart rate was fine.
There was absolutely NO MEDICAL NEED for them to have forced this C-section on me.
The reason was because they wanted to take my daughter out of my body as quickly as possible JUST SO THEY COULD STEAL HER FROM US!
We had been at the hospital no more than an hour and they were already wheeling me back to have the c-section. I was NEVER given the opportunity to labor and birth my child naturally and I NEVER ever gave them permission to do the c-section or signed anything giving them permission to do so.
It was as if my body was not my own. I was not allowed to make any of the decisions regarding the birth of my daughter.
What they did to me at that hospital completely violated my rights as a person, as a parent and as a human.
They wanted the baby inside me and drugged me to cut her out against my will, just to get her away from us so they could keep her.
They never, ever intended to allow us to leave the hospital with our child.
Department of children and family services
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