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To: 9YearLurker
You present as a conservative but have voiced a hard line with regard to Trump's handling of the "illegal" situation. That is fine, of course, but I would like to hear your logic.

IMO, you seem unwilling to afford any leeway by the fact Trump, essentially an inexperienced politician who started his presidency with few trusted and experienced advisors near at hand, is surrounded by imposters and assassins in both parties.

If he "offends" too many of them they have the means of promptly throwing him out of office. I.e., he can be brash and forceful under threat of termination and that action-reaction calibration no doubt changes everyday with new events.

You offer here two interesting opinions re Pence:

Pence was most likely part of the worst of the coup against Trump...
You will agree "most likely" rather than "certainly" is a bit vague, is that just speculation or do you have something pertinent?

"The worst" clearly includes the illegal and what is left is just vanilla politics, betrayal, backstabbing, etc.; what in your opinion, if anything, did Pence do that was illegal?

If nothing, then perhaps Pence is merely part of the "deep state". While the Clintons, Comey, Muellar, et al have criminal behavior to defend the Deep State has not been shown to be a criminal organization.

While it is possible that initially Trump was conned by Pence, or others in this regard, do you think at this point the street-wise Trump, now perhaps the most well-informed man in the world, remains so conned?

But he is unlikely to end up bounced from the ticket.
You seem to suggest that even if Pence drops the ball he is secure in the VP slot. Is it not possible that Trump now has suspicions about Pence? If so, is it possible that with this assignment Pence is being tested as a potential means of gaining support from certain senate republicans?

Have a nice weekend. {;^]

83 posted on 06/08/2019 9:57:39 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Federal bailouts usually end up supporting socialist mistakes.)
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To: frog in a pot

If you haven’t got the picture re: Pence you must not pay too much attention to the alternative media and must mostly rely on the MSM. Pence is widely believed to have been in on the coup, including the 25th amendment effort, early in the admin and some have thought that he might have been wearing a wire at some point early in his WH meetings with Trump. Certainly he was the guy who worked overtime on getting Flynn dumped after they set Flynn up. He also is longtime best buds with both Ryan and Flake.

Trump made major mistakes with his hiring and close advisors, starting with his daughter and son-in-law, who brought in all kind of GOPe and Democrat globalist backstabbers and obstructionists.

Trump is doing the best he knows how and has taken on a Herculean task at great risk. I am appreciative of that, but I am not of the school that believes that pom-poms only are effective in getting a political leader to do what he was elected to do. Without pressure from the base he will just hear from and bend to the opposing side.


84 posted on 06/08/2019 11:10:15 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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